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Demonstraties in de Ukraine na geknoei met verkiezingen
KIEV Opposition leader Viktor Yushchenko declared victory Tuesday in Ukraine’s presidential elections and called for international recognition, while about 200,000 supporters gathered in the capital to protest alleged election fraud.
. Yushchenko accused authorities of rigging Sunday’s vote in favor of Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovych and announced a campaign of civil disobedience. ‘‘We appeal to the parliaments and nations of the world to bolster the will of the Ukrainian people, to support their aspiration to return to democracy,’’ said a statement released by Yushchenko’s campaign office. . The opposition will conduct ‘‘a campaign of civil disobedience’’ and ‘‘a nonviolent struggle for recognition of the true results of the election,’’ said the statement by Yushchenko and his top allies. . Yushchenko led demonstrators through Kiev’s narrow brick streets to parliament, where lawmakers gathered to consider the opposition’s call for a vote of no-confidence in the election commission and for the official results to be annulled. . But only 191 of parliament’s 450 members turned up — less than the quorum needed to hold a vote. Pro-Yushchenko lawmakers hoped more would arrive, but prospects were dim. . The Election Commission’s announcement that the Kremlin-backed Yanukovych was ahead of the Western-leaning Yushchenko galvanized anger among many of the former Soviet republic’s 48 million people. Official results, with more than 99.48 percent of precincts counted, showed Yanukovych leading with 49.39 percent to his challenger’s 46.71 percent. But several exit polls had found Yushchenko the winner. . More than 100,000 people gathered behind metal barriers around the parliament building, waving orange flags — Yushchenko’s campaign color — and holding a giant orange ribbon over their heads, chanting ‘‘Criminals go away!’’ But many began leaving after parliament failed to reach quorum and temperatures dropped as evening approached. . In parliament, pro-Yushchenko lawmakers wearing orange handkerchiefs in their pockets took turns at the podium, calling on Yushchenko to take the oath of office. . Popular opposition leader Yulia Tymoshenko called on lawmakers ‘‘not to go to into any negotiations with the criminal power.’’ Instead, Tymoshenko said, they should ‘‘announce a new government, a new president, a new Ukraine.’’ . Oleksandr Moroz, leader of Socialist party who threw his support behind Yushchenko after the first round of elections, said: ‘‘We must demand the truth in a legal way ... We must make our choice today. And if today we have a person in whom the Ukrainian people expressed their trust, he should take responsibility and take an oath (of office).’’ . ‘‘All political forces should negotiate and solve the situation without blood,’’ parliament speaker Volodymyr Litvyn said. . ‘‘The activities of politicians and the government ... have divided society and brought people into to the streets,’’ Litvyn said. ‘‘Today there is a danger of activities moving beyond control.’’ . A no-confidence vote in parliament would carry political significance, but it would not be binding. According to the Ukrainian constitution, a no-confidence vote must be initiated by the president — and outgoing President Leonid Kuchma has staunchly backed Yanukovych. . Earlier, Tymoshenko warned that if parliament didn’t take action, ‘‘We will have no choice but to block roads, airports, seize city halls.’’ . Yushchenko supporters set up tents awash with orange on Kiev’s main avenue and in Independence Square, pledging to stay despite freezing temperatures until he is declared president. People continued to arrive in minibuses and on foot, raising fears of civil unrest in this nation of 48 million. . The tent city even generated its own one-page newspaper, which was being handed out to supporters. . Mykola Tomenko, a lawmaker and Yushchenko ally, said some police had joined the opposition, although the claim was impossible to independently verify. One police officer, wearing an orange ribbon in his uniform, ordered a group of police outside a government building to retreat inside, defusing tension between them and Yushchenko supporters. . Kiev’s city council and the administrations of four other sizable cities — Lviv, Ternopil, Vinnytsia and Ivano-Frankivsk — have refused to recognize the official results and they back Yushchenko. . Russian President Vladimir Putin, who strongly praised Yanukovych during the election, sent his congratulations to the prime minister, but observers from the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe and other international organizations pointed to extensive indications of voting fraud. . In televised comments, Yanukovych called for national unity, saying: ‘‘I categorically will not accept the actions of certain politicians who are now calling people to the barricades. This small group of radicals has taken upon itself the goal of splitting Ukraine.’’ . KIEV Opposition leader Viktor Yushchenko declared victory Tuesday in Ukraine’s presidential elections and called for international recognition, while about 200,000 supporters gathered in the capital to protest alleged election fraud. . Yushchenko accused authorities of rigging Sunday’s vote in favor of Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovych and announced a campaign of civil disobedience. ‘‘We appeal to the parliaments and nations of the world to bolster the will of the Ukrainian people, to support their aspiration to return to democracy,’’ said a statement released by Yushchenko’s campaign office. . The opposition will conduct ‘‘a campaign of civil disobedience’’ and ‘‘a nonviolent struggle for recognition of the true results of the election,’’ said the statement by Yushchenko and his top allies. . Yushchenko led demonstrators through Kiev’s narrow brick streets to parliament, where lawmakers gathered to consider the opposition’s call for a vote of no-confidence in the election commission and for the official results to be annulled. . But only 191 of parliament’s 450 members turned up — less than the quorum needed to hold a vote. Pro-Yushchenko lawmakers hoped more would arrive, but prospects were dim. . The Election Commission’s announcement that the Kremlin-backed Yanukovych was ahead of the Western-leaning Yushchenko galvanized anger among many of the former Soviet republic’s 48 million people. Official results, with more than 99.48 percent of precincts counted, showed Yanukovych leading with 49.39 percent to his challenger’s 46.71 percent. But several exit polls had found Yushchenko the winner. . More than 100,000 people gathered behind metal barriers around the parliament building, waving orange flags — Yushchenko’s campaign color — and holding a giant orange ribbon over their heads, chanting ‘‘Criminals go away!’’ But many began leaving after parliament failed to reach quorum and temperatures dropped as evening approached. . In parliament, pro-Yushchenko lawmakers wearing orange handkerchiefs in their pockets took turns at the podium, calling on Yushchenko to take the oath of office. . Popular opposition leader Yulia Tymoshenko called on lawmakers ‘‘not to go to into any negotiations with the criminal power.’’ Instead, Tymoshenko said, they should ‘‘announce a new government, a new president, a new Ukraine.’’ . Oleksandr Moroz, leader of Socialist party who threw his support behind Yushchenko after the first round of elections, said: ‘‘We must demand the truth in a legal way ... We must make our choice today. And if today we have a person in whom the Ukrainian people expressed their trust, he should take responsibility and take an oath (of office).’’ . ‘‘All political forces should negotiate and solve the situation without blood,’’ parliament speaker Volodymyr Litvyn said. . ‘‘The activities of politicians and the government ... have divided society and brought people into to the streets,’’ Litvyn said. ‘‘Today there is a danger of activities moving beyond control.’’ . A no-confidence vote in parliament would carry political significance, but it would not be binding. According to the Ukrainian constitution, a no-confidence vote must be initiated by the president — and outgoing President Leonid Kuchma has staunchly backed Yanukovych. . Earlier, Tymoshenko warned that if parliament didn’t take action, ‘‘We will have no choice but to block roads, airports, seize city halls.’’ . Yushchenko supporters set up tents awash with orange on Kiev’s main avenue and in Independence Square, pledging to stay despite freezing temperatures until he is declared president. People continued to arrive in minibuses and on foot, raising fears of civil unrest in this nation of 48 million. . The tent city even generated its own one-page newspaper, which was being handed out to supporters. . Mykola Tomenko, a lawmaker and Yushchenko ally, said some police had joined the opposition, although the claim was impossible to independently verify. One police officer, wearing an orange ribbon in his uniform, ordered a group of police outside a government building to retreat inside, defusing tension between them and Yushchenko supporters. . Kiev’s city council and the administrations of four other sizable cities — Lviv, Ternopil, Vinnytsia and Ivano-Frankivsk — have refused to recognize the official results and they back Yushchenko. . Russian President Vladimir Putin, who strongly praised Yanukovych during the election, sent his congratulations to the prime minister, but observers from the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe and other international organizations pointed to extensive indications of voting fraud. . In televised comments, Yanukovych called for national unity, saying: ‘‘I categorically will not accept the actions of certain politicians who are now calling people to the barricades. This small group of radicals has taken upon itself the goal of splitting Ukraine.’’ . KIEV Opposition leader Viktor Yushchenko declared victory Tuesday in Ukraine’s presidential elections and called for international recognition, while about 200,000 supporters gathered in the capital to protest alleged election fraud. . Yushchenko accused authorities of rigging Sunday’s vote in favor of Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovych and announced a campaign of civil disobedience. ‘‘We appeal to the parliaments and nations of the world to bolster the will of the Ukrainian people, to support their aspiration to return to democracy,’’ said a statement released by Yushchenko’s campaign office. . The opposition will conduct ‘‘a campaign of civil disobedience’’ and ‘‘a nonviolent struggle for recognition of the true results of the election,’’ said the statement by Yushchenko and his top allies. . Yushchenko led demonstrators through Kiev’s narrow brick streets to parliament, where lawmakers gathered to consider the opposition’s call for a vote of no-confidence in the election commission and for the official results to be annulled. . But only 191 of parliament’s 450 members turned up — less than the quorum needed to hold a vote. Pro-Yushchenko lawmakers hoped more would arrive, but prospects were dim. . The Election Commission’s announcement that the Kremlin-backed Yanukovych was ahead of the Western-leaning Yushchenko galvanized anger among many of the former Soviet republic’s 48 million people. Official results, with more than 99.48 percent of precincts counted, showed Yanukovych leading with 49.39 percent to his challenger’s 46.71 percent. But several exit polls had found Yushchenko the winner. . More than 100,000 people gathered behind metal barriers around the parliament building, waving orange flags — Yushchenko’s campaign color — and holding a giant orange ribbon over their heads, chanting ‘‘Criminals go away!’’ But many began leaving after parliament failed to reach quorum and temperatures dropped as evening approached. . In parliament, pro-Yushchenko lawmakers wearing orange handkerchiefs in their pockets took turns at the podium, calling on Yushchenko to take the oath of office. . Popular opposition leader Yulia Tymoshenko called on lawmakers ‘‘not to go to into any negotiations with the criminal power.’’ Instead, Tymoshenko said, they should ‘‘announce a new government, a new president, a new Ukraine.’’ . Oleksandr Moroz, leader of Socialist party who threw his support behind Yushchenko after the first round of elections, said: ‘‘We must demand the truth in a legal way ... We must make our choice today. And if today we have a person in whom the Ukrainian people expressed their trust, he should take responsibility and take an oath (of office).’’ . ‘‘All political forces should negotiate and solve the situation without blood,’’ parliament speaker Volodymyr Litvyn said. . ‘‘The activities of politicians and the government ... have divided society and brought people into to the streets,’’ Litvyn said. ‘‘Today there is a danger of activities moving beyond control.’’ . A no-confidence vote in parliament would carry political significance, but it would not be binding. According to the Ukrainian constitution, a no-confidence vote must be initiated by the president — and outgoing President Leonid Kuchma has staunchly backed Yanukovych. . Earlier, Tymoshenko warned that if parliament didn’t take action, ‘‘We will have no choice but to block roads, airports, seize city halls.’’ . Yushchenko supporters set up tents awash with orange on Kiev’s main avenue and in Independence Square, pledging to stay despite freezing temperatures until he is declared president. People continued to arrive in minibuses and on foot, raising fears of civil unrest in this nation of 48 million. . The tent city even generated its own one-page newspaper, which was being handed out to supporters. . Mykola Tomenko, a lawmaker and Yushchenko ally, said some police had joined the opposition, although the claim was impossible to independently verify. One police officer, wearing an orange ribbon in his uniform, ordered a group of police outside a government building to retreat inside, defusing tension between them and Yushchenko supporters. . Kiev’s city council and the administrations of four other sizable cities — Lviv, Ternopil, Vinnytsia and Ivano-Frankivsk — have refused to recognize the official results and they back Yushchenko. . Russian President Vladimir Putin, who strongly praised Yanukovych during the election, sent his congratulations to the prime minister, but observers from the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe and other international organizations pointed to extensive indications of voting fraud. . In televised comments, Yanukovych called for national unity, saying: ‘‘I categorically will not accept the actions of certain politicians who are now calling people to the barricades. This small group of radicals has taken upon itself the goal of splitting Ukraine.’’ . http://www.iht.com/articles/2004/11/...23ukraine.html |
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hopen maar dat t een fluwelen revolutie is en deze positieve omwenteling (geknoei tijdens stemmen is not done :nono: ) leidt tot een optimistische spirit in buurland Wit-Rusland :cool: |
Tsja, was ook wel te verwachten van een land zonder democratische traditie.
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Tsja, dat is een lastig dilemma voor de Oekraïense regering. Eigenlijk willen ze die demonstranten wel neerknuppelen, maar ze weten dat de rest van de wereld meekijkt.
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Wat een enorme parallel met Georgië
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En in Rusland is een meerderheid gewoon tevreden (economische groei enzo). |
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tenzij ze gestimuleerd worden door deze ontwikkelingen in de oekraine :cool: :) |
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als de Wit-Russische verkiezingen nu na de Oekrainse geweest waren, was dat positiever geweest. |
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logisch gevolg
maar verder interesseert me het eigenlijk allemaal niet zo, dat gedoe in het oostblok |
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BRUSSEL - De Europese Commissie vraagt Oekraïne om herziening van de procedure en resultaten van de presidentsverkiezingen van zondag. "Anders zal het niet zonder consequenties blijven voor onze relatie", zei voorzitter Barroso van de Europese Commissie woensdag in Brussel, na zijn eerste formele vergadering met de nieuwe eurocommissarissen.
Barroso stelde dat de waarnemers hebben vastgesteld dat bij de verkiezingen de democratische normen niet zijn gehaald. "We betreuren het dat Oekraïne de kans niet te baat heeft genomen om te tonen dat het de democratische kant op wil gaan." De kiescommissie van Oekraïne maakt woensdag de uitslag van de presidentsverkiezingen bekend. Voorlopige cijfers duiden op een overwinning voor de pro-Russische regeringskandidaat Viktor Janoekovitsj. De oppositie en internationale waarnemers zeggen echter dat op grote schaal verkiezingsfraude is gepleegd. Evenals de VS roepen zij om op herziening van de stemuitslag Ik vind het trouwens wel hypocriet dat de VS zich hierin mengt Bush was zijn eerste termijn ook niet helemaal koosjer aan de macht gekomen he :o |
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Kijk, ik vind het niet erg als VS ermee bemoeit. Wat kunnen ze doen behalve sancties opleggen en "foei foei" zeggen??? Maar het is wel erg als Poetin zich erin mengt. Hij heeft het verkiezingscampagne van Yanukovich gesponsord en die laat Juschenko nooit winnen. En er gaan al 4 dagen geruchten rond dat Russische leger aan de grens staat bereid om in te vallen en dat Russische geheime dienst al vanaf zondag hard bezig is in Kiev. Als dat gebeurt dan pas is er echte ellende. |
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Op het onafhangkelijkheidsplein in Okraine gaat het volgende mop rond ( het er zijn in totaal honderden, mensen hebben toch nix te doen behalve schreeuwen en grappen verzinnen): Oekraiense kieskomissie heeft aan de Wit-Russische kieskomissie gevraagd alle stemmen na te tellen. Wit-Russen zijn al enige uren bezig in Kiev. Met grote voorsprong staat Lukaschenko aan kop. |
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Poetin doet niks anders dan wat elk andere dictator zou doen zorgen dat er een pro russchische regering aanblijft. |
Nog meer :D
Vanaf dinsdag is Amerikaanse volk bang voor Joeschenko omdat ze denken dat hij zich ook binnenkort tot president van Amerika benoemt. Naast Poetin, president van Ajzerbajian, Lukaschenko en veel andere prominente volksleiders heeft nu ook Osama bin Laden Yanukovich gefeliciteerd met presidentschap. Volgens de hertelling hebben in totaal 67 miljoen Oekrainers gestemd, waarvan 53 miljoen voor Yanukovich, 46 miljoen voor Joeschenko en 12 miljoen tegen beide. |
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Natuurlijk heeft de EU helemaal geen economische belangen bij de Oekraine, ze doen dit allemaal voor die arme onderdrukte Oekrainers in de naam van de vrijheid en democratie :rolleyes:
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kunnen we beter vragen wie in de wereld daar niet mee bezig is.. |
Hof Oekraïne onderzoekt stembusgang 29-11-'04
Het Oekraïense Hooggerechtshof is vanochtend begonnen met een zitting over de omstreden presidentsverkiezingen van 21 november. Janoekovitsj is de officiële winnaar, maar volgens de oppositie en internationale waarnemers is er gefraudeerd en heeft tegenstander Joesjtsjenko de verkiezingen gewonnen. Het kan nog dagen duren voordat het hof met een uitspraak komt over de stembusstrijd. Het hof heeft laten weten in ieder geval vandaag nog niet met een uitspraak te zullen komen. Druk opgevoerd De Oekraïense oppositie heeft de druk op de regering opgevoerd. Julia Timosjenko, één van de leiders van de partij van Joesjtsjenko, riep gisteren de tienduizenden aanwezigen in Kiev op vandaag massaal naar het gerechtshof te gaan. Van president Koetsjma eiste ze binnen 24 uur het ontslag van premier Janoekovitsj. Ze dreigt de president anders te laten beperken in zijn bewegingsvrijheid. Ook moeten volgens Timosjenko de separatistische gouverneurs van de regio's Donetsk, Loehansk en Kharkiv uit hun functie worden ontheven en moeten er juridische procedures tegen hen begonnen worden. Tot slot riep Timosjenko het leger op de bevolking van Oekraïne te beschermen. Als de klacht dat er tijdens de stembusgang massaal gefraudeerd is, gegrond wordt verklaard, komen er mogelijk nieuwe verkiezingen. Dat wil Joesjtsjenko ook het liefst. Ook volgens de EU is dat de "beste oplossing". De liberale Joesjtsjenko heeft opgeroepen tot een nieuwe verkiezingsronde op 12 december. Referendum De regio Donetsk in Oost-Oekraïne wil aanstaande zondag, op 5 december, een referendum houden over autonomie als premier Janoekovitsj zijn omstreden zege in de presidentsverkiezingen wordt ontnomen. In Donetsk hebben de aanhangers van Janoekovitsj de meerderheid. Janoekovitsj steunt de plannen voor het referendum niet. De voornamelijk Russisch-sprekende bevolking in Oost-Oekraïne is woedend over de protesten van de oppositie tegen de uitslag van de presidentsverkiezingen. De leider van de oppositie, de pro-Westerse presidentskandidaat Joesjtsjenko, haalde vandaag fel uit naar de regionale leiders. Volgens hem zijn die uit op een tweedeling van Oekraïne. Hij dreigde hen voor de rechter te slepen. Joesjtsjenko maakte hen uit voor criminelen en dreigde met strafrechtelijke maatregelen. http://www.nos.nl/nieuws/artikelen/2...koekraine.html |
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Als Joestsjenko maar de neuwe president wordt, vind ik alles best. :) (y)
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straks word owekranie nog opgesplits :) |
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Tsja, niet zo vreemd, al die demonstraties. Ik vind het een goed teken dat er onder het volk in ieder geval sprake is van een wil tot democratie.
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Ik vind het zó cool dat die mensen er na meer dan een week nog steeds met z'n honderdduizenden staan! Dag en nacht, door weer en wind. Demonstreren, naar hun werk, ophouden met werk, weer demonstreren.
Respect! :cool: (y) Moest zoiets in Nederland gebeuren en er zou een druppeltje regen vallen; we zaten binnen 5 minutenw eer binnen. |
de Gooi- en Eemlander wist vandaag te melden dat een uit elkaar vallen van de Oekraine reeel is...
krant in de bocht of... :s |
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Het heeft vast iets te maken met Jon's SM-kelder. |
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niet dat ik me kan herinneren zo hypocriet ben ik nou ook weer niet :p zie naam onbekend :) |
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