Tool

[MM2]

Kan het soms enorm waarderen, maar lang niet altijd.
A Perfect Circle ligt mij hedendaags beter.
Ik luister veel meer naar APC dan naar Tool.
Maar het zijn allebei wel bands waar ik een tijdje alleen maar naar blijf luisteren, en dan weer een heel tijdje laat liggen tot ik weer iets nieuws hoor.
Ben nu bijna uitgekeken op de nieuwe APC. Pas als ik weer een optreden van ze zie ga ik er weer naar luisteren (denk ik).

[Carn]

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Hi, this was saved from a MS Word document my friend Jimmy sent me. I have no idea who the original author is. If you're interested, please check out my website. Thanks, and enjoy.

To me, Tool's Lateralus is the most amazing piece of music ever composed. I think Tool deliberately wanted to give their fans something truly amazing, but wanted them to find it on their own. "Recognize this as a holy gift..." At first, I thought that the song Lateralus was about tripping acid - discovering true color by seperating the body from the mind. At first listen, I imagined the bending envelope as an intense visual. After becoming more familiar with the track, however, I had reformed my interpretation to something broader: think deeper. Lateralus, perhaps because it is the album's "title track", serves as the central clue for a puzzle that a friend of mine had read about somewhere on the internet. "All I know is that there is a different order for the songs - something about two spirals. Oh yeah, and thirteen is in the middle." After scavenging through endless google search results, I gave up on finding more about this 'alternate order'. Intent to figure the album out, and very curious about the spirals - I put on the proverbial 'thinking cap'. I understood how the spirals could have a lot of significance, in that the album's title track offers the inspiring, "swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human..........And following our will and wind we may just go where no one's been. We'll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no one's been." In my internet scavenging, I had read one review, written by a drummer, who mentioned that Danny Carey's drum beat formed a fibonacci sequence during the song Lateralus. A drummer myself, I decided to get out the graph paper and follow Danny. I can't play like he can, but at least I can hear everything he's doing, and thus was able to construct the drum tabulature. Sure enough, Danny repeats a Fibonacci sequence through the number 13: 1,1,2,3,5,8,13. After 13, he starts again with 1. Bringing in my Algebra 2 knowledge of the Fibonacci sequence, when the equation for the Fibonacci sequence (which I don't actually know) is graphed, it forms a sprial whose vertex depends on the number at which the sequence begins. Coincidence? I began to think not. I had already known of Danny's obsession with sacred geometry and am familiar with Bob Frissell's book, Nothing in This Book Is True, But It's Exactly How Things Are , so the significance of what I had stumbled upon had actually begun to settle in. This is where I just had to play with Lateralus. I had doodled a few spirals in the corners of my graph paper, and in doing so made the first important connection to Lateralus. I knew that if the tracks were in fact intended to be heard in a different order, "Parabol" and "Parabola" would have to go together. In drawing my spirals, I had begun with a vertex and 'spiraled' outwards. After writing the numbers 1 through 13 linearly, I could immediately see that Parabol and Parabola would have to be the middle of my spiral (in that 13 / 2 = 6.5). I drew a simple arrow between 6 and 7 and then pondered the next pair. At first, I actually drew a spiral connecting pairs of numbers whose sum equaled 13 (the number of songs on the album). This, however, left the last track in the same position and without anything to connect to. At this time, I had used my copy of Lateralus and Cool Edit Pro to take out the silences between tracks and put the songs in the following order: 6,7,5,8,4,9,3,10,2,11,1,12,13. The transition from Parabola into Schism blew my mind, as the plucks, probably dismissed by listeners as a drawn out rant of an ending, perfectly transition into the beginning of Schism. When you count out beats as the strings are plucked, Schism resumes with the same time signature and tempo - mirroring the progression of notes. The transition from Schism into Ticks & Leeches is equally intriguing. Schism ends with strong double-kick bass and tom smacks, and Ticks & Leeches begins with what many would call a 'tribal' drum beat. The beat at the very start of Ticks & Leeches is slightly different every subsequent time it is repeated - the measures are two beats longer. Yup - you guessed it - those two beats are ACTUALLY the last two beats of Schism. I can honestly say that I never understood the album's fourth track, Mantra until reordering the album's songs. What I had originally heard as whale calls now had begun to resemble the worst imaginable dry heaves - or a stylized choking. Fitting, seeing as how the last line in Ticks & Leeches is "I hope you choke." After this transition, none of those following it really seemed to make much sense. I certainly didn't like that Disposition and Reflection had been seperated - as they sound quite good when played sequentially on the album. This was the only real roadblock in my disciphering of the Holy Gift. Then I had remembered what my friend had told me - 13 was in the middle. At the time, probably just wanting to believe that there was more to this cd, I had equated this to the positioning of the song "Intermission" on the previous release, Ænema. For the song to be in the 'middle' of the album it would have to be the seventh track in sequence, here having six tracks on either side of it. So I inserted Faaip de Oiad after Lateralus, and almost peed my pants when I discovered that (ever-so-faintly) the fading tone of the last note of Lateralus could be heard in beginning of Faaip de Oiad, and how the distortion of the guitars at the tail end of Lateralus resembled, and later transitioned seamlessly into, the static at the beginning of Faaip de Oiad. The lyrics of Lateralus justify this break in the spiral, almost instructing: "spiral out, keep going, spiral out, keep going." I went back to Lateralus to find the next clue. In Danny Carey's amazingly competent Fibonacci sequence, he had stopped at 13 and gone back to 1. This is what I chose to do to finish the sequence. A second spiral was now constucted, and the order for the Holy Gift now became 6,7,5,8,4,9,13,1,12,2,11,3,10. Already many of you are probably fascinated at what I have revealed to you, but I can not even begin to tell you what this new order has opened up for me. The beauty of Lateralus is very, very fragile and has to be viewed with a very open mind. It can also be different when looked at from different points of view. Aside from the fact that the new order of the songs places them in an order where they flow together nicely - often ending and resuming on the same notes or within the same progression, and some times - in the case of Lateralus into Faaip de Oiad and The Grudge into Triad - even overlapping (though admittadly sound much better when actually electronically overlapped, this is kind of cheating. Consider this a hint, however, if you plan on doing this yourself), the two spirals help to tell a story that every Tool fan should hear. In the interest of not boring the only casually intrigued, I will try to keep this very brief. I would also recommend familiarizing yourselves with Frissell's book (yeah - the one I mentioned earlier). I consider Parabol and Parabola to be quite expository. Maynard wants us to know that no matter what happens, we must all know that this is not our only existance. Our very minds and the contents of our subconscious are intended to be immortal, and if we accept this into our lives (be it because of personal or religious reasons), it will be so. As such, pain is an illusion. At first, I called it "The Lateralus Prophecy" (for reasons you will soon understand), but I have since decided to call the 'reordered' version of Lateralus "The Holy Gift". As Maynard says, "Recognize this as a holy gift and celebrate this chance to be alive and breathing," I take the word "this" to mean much more than just his simple cautioning. Since Parabola is the second track of the Holy Gift, it can be considered at the beginning (esp. considering the context of it's duality with Parabol), and as such, I interpret Maynard's words as more than just clever lyrics in a song. They are a plead for his listeners to listen to everything he has to say and truly celebrate the chance of immortality offered throughout. I would be lying if I said that each song has a specific translation. On the contrary, Tool's music is designed to make you think, not say something specific. It must be treated like great literature - much is hidden contextually. I will elude to Geometric-Drumming's previous post, where he explains the time signatures of Schism: "It represents the title...it's arranged in 12/8 time which is SPLIT into 5/8 and 7/8 - which only really FITS as you PUT THE PIECES BACK TOGETHER." Where Geometric-Drumming claims Schism as his favorite Tool song, I have heard some fans say that it was a retched pick for the album's only single - but I think it was brilliant. Not to downplay the interpretations of those who have posted before me (in fact, I agree with much of what %BlueSoulRobot% has to say), but I think that to the casual listener who knows nothing of Tool, it can be a powerful invitation. Think about it - a lot of dingbats with MTV and a radio would walk around with the words "I know the pieces fit" in their heads. I wonder how many of them took the time to put the pieces back together to (re)discover what is trying to be communicated. I welcome any feedback. I would love to share interpretations of the songs via email - just too lengthy to post here. I would like to offer the following advice: DO NOT use MP3s to digitally reorder Lateralus. A lot of VERY IMPORTANT information is encoded on the actual cd. Ever notice how everyone who has lost or broken that cd has IMMEDIATELY gone out and bought a new copy? I know I have. It's because there are things encoded on the factory pressing of the cd that are lost in the mp3 compression process and any direct copy onto a cd-r. If you want to do it, do it right - I can't stress how important this is. Use the cda tracks as you put it together and maintain all audio fidelity using professional mixing software.

There's a Fibonacci in Maynard's lyrics, specifically the syllables:

black [1]

then [1]

white are [2]

all I see [3]

in my infancy [5]

red and yellow then came to be [8]

reaching out to me [5]

lets me see [3]

there is [2]

so [1]

much [1]

more and [2]

beckons me [3]

to look through to these [5]

infinite possibilities [8]

as below so above and beyond I imagine [13]

drawn outside the lines of reason [8]

push the envelope [5]

watch it bend [3]

I suppose it's not actually a true Fibonacci, since it does reverse itself.

the Fibonacci Sequence. It's basically a string of numbers that when you add a number to the number before it, you get the next number. Starting with the numbers 0 and 1. 0+1=1, so the set now looks like this; 0 1 1. You take the 1 and add the previous number (1) and you get 2. The sequence looks like this; 0 1 1 2. Now you take the 2 and add the previous number and get 3. Now you have 0 1 1 2 3. When you add the 3 and the 2 you get 5. 0 1 2 3 5. 5+3=8. 0 1 1 2 3 5 8. The process continues.


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Ik ben te lam om het te controleren maar wat die dude schrijft klopt op het gehoor best aardig. Toch wel erg vet.

zeer goede band

[Freshh~]

Mysterons schreef op 13-11-2003 @ 21:23:
ze zijn goed, maar ik moet er wel een bui voor hebben..

[Lateralus]

Carn schreef op 23-01-2004 @ 16:57:

[verhaal]

Ik ben te lam om het te controleren maar wat die dude schrijft klopt op het gehoor best aardig. Toch wel erg vet.

hehe erg gaaf om te lezen hoe die gozer dat allemaal uitgezocht heeft. ik zal het album eens gaan luisteren in de volgorde waarvan hij zegt dat goed is
trouwens ook wel gaaf dat de rij van fibonacci in het nummer lateralus zit, zowel tekst als zang, want dat stuk zang waar het in zit vond ik altijd al het gaafste van dat nummer.

[]{ing]

freakjuh schreef op 15-11-2003 @ 15:22:
Ik vind A Perfect Circle zelfs beter als Tool.

ik niet. mer de noms blijft een van mijn meest geliefde albums, daar niet van, maar 13th step doet er echt aan af..
maar sowieso is Tool geniaal en mijn cd's zullen ook nooit gaan vervelen, aangezien ik bijna elke dag wel tool luister

[cottoncandy]

TOOL vind ik heel erg goed, maar ik kan het niet altijd luisteren. & waar wil je heen met dit topic?

[Carn]

cottoncandy schreef op 23-01-2004 @ 17:58:
TOOL vind ik heel erg goed, maar ik kan het niet altijd luisteren. & waar wil je heen met dit topic?

Tegen wie heb je het?

Ik vond per toeval dat stuk tekst, en vond het wel interessant, dus heb gewoon het recentste tool topic opgezocht.

[cottoncandy]

Carn schreef op 23-01-2004 @ 18:15:
Tegen wie heb je het?

Geen idee.

[Carn]

cottoncandy schreef op 23-01-2004 @ 18:18:
Geen idee.

Waar gaat het heen met de jeugd van tegenwoordig

[cottoncandy]

Carn schreef op 23-01-2004 @ 18:20:
Waar gaat het heen met de jeugd van tegenwoordig

Alsof ik jeugd ben

[Carn]

cottoncandy schreef op 23-01-2004 @ 18:21:
Alsof ik jeugd ben

Tja, ik kon kiezen tussen jeugd en oud viswijf Dus prijs je gelukkig als een jeugdige

[cottoncandy]

Carn schreef op 23-01-2004 @ 18:22:
Tja, ik kon kiezen tussen jeugd en oud viswijf Dus prijs je gelukkig als een jeugdige

Dat slaat nergens op. Tenzij je denkvermogen minimaal is, wat ik overigens niet meteen in twijfel trek.

[Carn]

ga paaldansen, is een gat in de markt

[cottoncandy]

Carn schreef op 23-01-2004 @ 18:29:
ga paaldansen, is een gat in de markt

Wat een ranzig slechte Friso immitatie.

[Carn]

cottoncandy schreef op 23-01-2004 @ 18:30:
Wat een ranzig slechte Friso immitatie.

[Lateralus]

heeft iemand trouwens enig idee of/wanneer er weer een nieuw album van tool uitkomt? hoop niet dat er weer 5 jaar tussen gaat zitten, net zoals bij Ænima en Lateralus.
maar ik hoorde laatst dat ze zouden gaan werken aan een nieuw album.. dus misschien dat er mensen zijn die er meer van af weten?

[Carn]

Ik herinner me dat ze na de lateralus tour meteen in de studio zijn gedoken om alvast wat ruwe demos op te nemen. Maar goed, zolang maynard met APC op rak is zal het nog wel even duren. Ik gok op eind 2004.

Lateralus schreef op 23-01-2004 @ 18:36:
heeft iemand trouwens enig idee of/wanneer er weer een nieuw album van tool uitkomt? hoop niet dat er weer 5 jaar tussen gaat zitten, net zoals bij Ænima en Lateralus.
maar ik hoorde laatst dat ze zouden gaan werken aan een nieuw album.. dus misschien dat er mensen zijn die er meer van af weten?

word pas 2005 heb ik gehoord , omdat maynard nu nog op tour is met apc en die tour duurt tot juli volgens mij, en daarna zouden ze de studio ingaan , dus ik verwact hem pas ergens midden 2005 helaas

[Master of Puppets]

was ook wel te verwachten, ik denk niet dat een band als Tool elk jaar een CD kan en moet maken.

Master of Puppets schreef op 23-01-2004 @ 18:42:
was ook wel te verwachten, ik denk niet dat een band als Tool elk jaar een CD kan en moet maken.

precies , ik vind het wel prettig dat er steeds een paar jaar tussen zit

[Carn]

Trouwens, geniale site wat betreft Tool en bittorrents

http://www.brokenvisage.com/TOOL/phptest/member.php

[Lateralus]

aah ok.. dat wordt dan dus nog wel even wachten..maar ben er al wel erg benieuwd naar hoop ook dat ze doorgaan zoals op lateralus, vind ik toch wel het beste album.
@MoP: ja daar heb je gelijk in, maar 5 jaar vind ik wel erg lang...jaar of 3,5/4 vind ik mooi genoeg

Woah, zeker interessant artikel. Ik had al gelezen (volgens mij in "de" Tool-FAQ) dat er wiskundige verbanden in en tussen de nummers van Lateralus zaten, maar dit is zeker wel wat specifieker uitgelegd. Erg cool.

[Fjall]

~(S-|-)2v!lL~ schreef op 13-11-2003 @ 23:13:
Eat shit:

[afbeelding]

damn!!!!!!!! ik viel bijna om van me stoel man!!! wil je me niet meer zo aan het lachen maken!!!

[Fjall]

freakjuh schreef op 15-11-2003 @ 15:22:
Ik vind A Perfect Circle zelfs beter als Tool.

beter dan

Ik vond die laatste apc cd wel heel erg op Tool gaan lijken eerlijk gezegd. Doen ze een cover (van Failure) en dan halen ze het origineel bij lange na niet. Geef mij Tool maar!!!

[muziekvlinder]

ddeftones schreef op 24-01-2004 @ 16:07:
beter dan

Ik vond die laatste apc cd wel heel erg op Tool gaan lijken eerlijk gezegd. Doen ze een cover (van Failure) en dan halen ze het origineel bij lange na niet. Geef mij Tool maar!!!

vind the nurse who loved me versie van failure ook beter ja
maar die eerste APC blijft echt geweldig in mijn ogen, de tweede was minder

[Fjall]

zeg ook niet dat het een slechte band is. Blijft enorm goede band. Vond idd die eerste cd ook een stuk beter.

ddeftones schreef op 24-01-2004 @ 16:04:
damn!!!!!!!! ik viel bijna om van me stoel man!!! wil je me niet meer zo aan het lachen maken!!!

haha ja

[86dagreed]

ddeftones schreef op 24-01-2004 @ 16:07:
beter dan

Ik vond die laatste apc cd wel heel erg op Tool gaan lijken eerlijk gezegd. Doen ze een cover (van Failure) en dan halen ze het origineel bij lange na niet. Geef mij Tool maar!!!

ik ben het een keer niet met je eens. ik vind de APC uitvoering beter en emotioneler dan de uitvoering van Failure. Ze hebben hun eigen draai eraan gegeven, en Maynard kan natuurlijk weinig fout doen.
Failure mag trouwens wel wat meer aandacht krijgen hier op dit forum.

86dagreed schreef op 24-01-2004 @ 18:42:

Failure mag trouwens wel wat meer aandacht krijgen hier op dit forum.

tool is cker wel cool! lekker zweverig

hmm, ben geloof ik de enigste die tool echt stom vindt

[Nighttime Bird]

Carn schreef op 23-01-2004 @ 16:57:
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Hi, this was saved from a MS Word document my friend Jimmy sent me. I have no idea who the original author is. If you're interested, please check out my website. Thanks, and enjoy.

To me, Tool's Lateralus is the most amazing piece of music ever composed. I think Tool deliberately wanted to give their fans something truly amazing, but wanted them to find it on their own. "Recognize this as a holy gift..." At first, I thought that the song Lateralus was about tripping acid - discovering true color by seperating the body from the mind. At first listen, I imagined the bending envelope as an intense visual. After becoming more familiar with the track, however, I had reformed my interpretation to something broader: think deeper. Lateralus, perhaps because it is the album's "title track", serves as the central clue for a puzzle that a friend of mine had read about somewhere on the internet. "All I know is that there is a different order for the songs - something about two spirals. Oh yeah, and thirteen is in the middle." After scavenging through endless google search results, I gave up on finding more about this 'alternate order'. Intent to figure the album out, and very curious about the spirals - I put on the proverbial 'thinking cap'. I understood how the spirals could have a lot of significance, in that the album's title track offers the inspiring, "swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human..........And following our will and wind we may just go where no one's been. We'll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no one's been." In my internet scavenging, I had read one review, written by a drummer, who mentioned that Danny Carey's drum beat formed a fibonacci sequence during the song Lateralus. A drummer myself, I decided to get out the graph paper and follow Danny. I can't play like he can, but at least I can hear everything he's doing, and thus was able to construct the drum tabulature. Sure enough, Danny repeats a Fibonacci sequence through the number 13: 1,1,2,3,5,8,13. After 13, he starts again with 1. Bringing in my Algebra 2 knowledge of the Fibonacci sequence, when the equation for the Fibonacci sequence (which I don't actually know) is graphed, it forms a sprial whose vertex depends on the number at which the sequence begins. Coincidence? I began to think not. I had already known of Danny's obsession with sacred geometry and am familiar with Bob Frissell's book, Nothing in This Book Is True, But It's Exactly How Things Are , so the significance of what I had stumbled upon had actually begun to settle in. This is where I just had to play with Lateralus. I had doodled a few spirals in the corners of my graph paper, and in doing so made the first important connection to Lateralus. I knew that if the tracks were in fact intended to be heard in a different order, "Parabol" and "Parabola" would have to go together. In drawing my spirals, I had begun with a vertex and 'spiraled' outwards. After writing the numbers 1 through 13 linearly, I could immediately see that Parabol and Parabola would have to be the middle of my spiral (in that 13 / 2 = 6.5). I drew a simple arrow between 6 and 7 and then pondered the next pair. At first, I actually drew a spiral connecting pairs of numbers whose sum equaled 13 (the number of songs on the album). This, however, left the last track in the same position and without anything to connect to. At this time, I had used my copy of Lateralus and Cool Edit Pro to take out the silences between tracks and put the songs in the following order: 6,7,5,8,4,9,3,10,2,11,1,12,13. The transition from Parabola into Schism blew my mind, as the plucks, probably dismissed by listeners as a drawn out rant of an ending, perfectly transition into the beginning of Schism. When you count out beats as the strings are plucked, Schism resumes with the same time signature and tempo - mirroring the progression of notes. The transition from Schism into Ticks & Leeches is equally intriguing. Schism ends with strong double-kick bass and tom smacks, and Ticks & Leeches begins with what many would call a 'tribal' drum beat. The beat at the very start of Ticks & Leeches is slightly different every subsequent time it is repeated - the measures are two beats longer. Yup - you guessed it - those two beats are ACTUALLY the last two beats of Schism. I can honestly say that I never understood the album's fourth track, Mantra until reordering the album's songs. What I had originally heard as whale calls now had begun to resemble the worst imaginable dry heaves - or a stylized choking. Fitting, seeing as how the last line in Ticks & Leeches is "I hope you choke." After this transition, none of those following it really seemed to make much sense. I certainly didn't like that Disposition and Reflection had been seperated - as they sound quite good when played sequentially on the album. This was the only real roadblock in my disciphering of the Holy Gift. Then I had remembered what my friend had told me - 13 was in the middle. At the time, probably just wanting to believe that there was more to this cd, I had equated this to the positioning of the song "Intermission" on the previous release, Ænema. For the song to be in the 'middle' of the album it would have to be the seventh track in sequence, here having six tracks on either side of it. So I inserted Faaip de Oiad after Lateralus, and almost peed my pants when I discovered that (ever-so-faintly) the fading tone of the last note of Lateralus could be heard in beginning of Faaip de Oiad, and how the distortion of the guitars at the tail end of Lateralus resembled, and later transitioned seamlessly into, the static at the beginning of Faaip de Oiad. The lyrics of Lateralus justify this break in the spiral, almost instructing: "spiral out, keep going, spiral out, keep going." I went back to Lateralus to find the next clue. In Danny Carey's amazingly competent Fibonacci sequence, he had stopped at 13 and gone back to 1. This is what I chose to do to finish the sequence. A second spiral was now constucted, and the order for the Holy Gift now became 6,7,5,8,4,9,13,1,12,2,11,3,10. Already many of you are probably fascinated at what I have revealed to you, but I can not even begin to tell you what this new order has opened up for me. The beauty of Lateralus is very, very fragile and has to be viewed with a very open mind. It can also be different when looked at from different points of view. Aside from the fact that the new order of the songs places them in an order where they flow together nicely - often ending and resuming on the same notes or within the same progression, and some times - in the case of Lateralus into Faaip de Oiad and The Grudge into Triad - even overlapping (though admittadly sound much better when actually electronically overlapped, this is kind of cheating. Consider this a hint, however, if you plan on doing this yourself), the two spirals help to tell a story that every Tool fan should hear. In the interest of not boring the only casually intrigued, I will try to keep this very brief. I would also recommend familiarizing yourselves with Frissell's book (yeah - the one I mentioned earlier). I consider Parabol and Parabola to be quite expository. Maynard wants us to know that no matter what happens, we must all know that this is not our only existance. Our very minds and the contents of our subconscious are intended to be immortal, and if we accept this into our lives (be it because of personal or religious reasons), it will be so. As such, pain is an illusion. At first, I called it "The Lateralus Prophecy" (for reasons you will soon understand), but I have since decided to call the 'reordered' version of Lateralus "The Holy Gift". As Maynard says, "Recognize this as a holy gift and celebrate this chance to be alive and breathing," I take the word "this" to mean much more than just his simple cautioning. Since Parabola is the second track of the Holy Gift, it can be considered at the beginning (esp. considering the context of it's duality with Parabol), and as such, I interpret Maynard's words as more than just clever lyrics in a song. They are a plead for his listeners to listen to everything he has to say and truly celebrate the chance of immortality offered throughout. I would be lying if I said that each song has a specific translation. On the contrary, Tool's music is designed to make you think, not say something specific. It must be treated like great literature - much is hidden contextually. I will elude to Geometric-Drumming's previous post, where he explains the time signatures of Schism: "It represents the title...it's arranged in 12/8 time which is SPLIT into 5/8 and 7/8 - which only really FITS as you PUT THE PIECES BACK TOGETHER." Where Geometric-Drumming claims Schism as his favorite Tool song, I have heard some fans say that it was a retched pick for the album's only single - but I think it was brilliant. Not to downplay the interpretations of those who have posted before me (in fact, I agree with much of what %BlueSoulRobot% has to say), but I think that to the casual listener who knows nothing of Tool, it can be a powerful invitation. Think about it - a lot of dingbats with MTV and a radio would walk around with the words "I know the pieces fit" in their heads. I wonder how many of them took the time to put the pieces back together to (re)discover what is trying to be communicated. I welcome any feedback. I would love to share interpretations of the songs via email - just too lengthy to post here. I would like to offer the following advice: DO NOT use MP3s to digitally reorder Lateralus. A lot of VERY IMPORTANT information is encoded on the actual cd. Ever notice how everyone who has lost or broken that cd has IMMEDIATELY gone out and bought a new copy? I know I have. It's because there are things encoded on the factory pressing of the cd that are lost in the mp3 compression process and any direct copy onto a cd-r. If you want to do it, do it right - I can't stress how important this is. Use the cda tracks as you put it together and maintain all audio fidelity using professional mixing software.

There's a Fibonacci in Maynard's lyrics, specifically the syllables:

black [1]

then [1]

white are [2]

all I see [3]

in my infancy [5]

red and yellow then came to be [8]

reaching out to me [5]

lets me see [3]

there is [2]

so [1]

much [1]

more and [2]

beckons me [3]

to look through to these [5]

infinite possibilities [8]

as below so above and beyond I imagine [13]

drawn outside the lines of reason [8]

push the envelope [5]

watch it bend [3]

I suppose it's not actually a true Fibonacci, since it does reverse itself.

the Fibonacci Sequence. It's basically a string of numbers that when you add a number to the number before it, you get the next number. Starting with the numbers 0 and 1. 0+1=1, so the set now looks like this; 0 1 1. You take the 1 and add the previous number (1) and you get 2. The sequence looks like this; 0 1 1 2. Now you take the 2 and add the previous number and get 3. Now you have 0 1 1 2 3. When you add the 3 and the 2 you get 5. 0 1 2 3 5. 5+3=8. 0 1 1 2 3 5 8. The process continues.


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Ik ben te lam om het te controleren maar wat die dude schrijft klopt op het gehoor best aardig. Toch wel erg vet.

Laatst ook tegengekomen, erg interessant inderdaad. Had wel eens iets gehoord/gelezen over Fibonacci in Lateralus, maar dat het de hele cd zou kunnen zijn...

Heb helaas geen CoolEdit om het te 'controleren'.


En wat The Nurse Who Loved Me betreft..... ARGH, ik hou me in.

[Silent Enigma]

pretentieus mag ik dat zeggen hier?

en toch blijft het een geweldige band.

[Metal]

hoe geniaal zijn flood en third eye, ik vind tool een van de betere bands van de afgelopen jaren

[coffee_mug]

Tool is:

[Master of Puppets]

Carn schreef op 23-01-2004 @ 16:57:
There's a Fibonacci in Maynard's lyrics, specifically the syllables:

black [1]

then [1]

white are [2]

all I see [3]

in my infancy [5]

red and yellow then came to be [8]

reaching out to me [5]

lets me see [3]

there is [2]

so [1]

much [1]

more and [2]

beckons me [3]

to look through to these [5]

infinite possibilities [8]

as below so above and beyond I imagine [13]

drawn outside the lines of reason [8]

push the envelope [5]

watch it bend [3]

I suppose it's not actually a true Fibonacci, since it does reverse itself.

the Fibonacci Sequence. It's basically a string of numbers that when you add a number to the number before it, you get the next number. Starting with the numbers 0 and 1. 0+1=1, so the set now looks like this; 0 1 1. You take the 1 and add the previous number (1) and you get 2. The sequence looks like this; 0 1 1 2. Now you take the 2 and add the previous number and get 3. Now you have 0 1 1 2 3. When you add the 3 and the 2 you get 5. 0 1 2 3 5. 5+3=8. 0 1 1 2 3 5 8. The process continues.


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Ik ben te lam om het te controleren maar wat die dude schrijft klopt op het gehoor best aardig. Toch wel erg vet.

hehe interessant verhaal wel.

Blackwater_park schreef op 25-01-2004 @ 23:30:
hmm, ben geloof ik de enigste die tool echt stom vindt

Neu..

ook al ben ik vanochtend een wanhopige poging begonnen om het tof te vinden.

dat fibonacci verhaaltje is wel c00l maar ik haat wiskunde

[86dagreed]

eXo schreef op 26-01-2004 @ 11:46:
Neu..

ook al ben ik vanochtend een wanhopige poging begonnen om het tof te vinden.

dat fibonacci verhaaltje is wel c00l maar ik haat wiskunde

jawel, maar lettergrepen begrijp je wel ?