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ik heb het al geschreven in rockyj's topic over einstein maar ik vind het interresant genoeg om er een nieuwe topic over te openen.
wat denken jullie van deze wetenschappelijke revolutie? mystiek, paranormale verschijnselen en natuurkunde groeien steeds verder naar elkaar toe. van www.crystalinks.com/holographic.html The Universe as a Hologram In 1982 a remarkable event took place. At the University of Paris a research team led by physicist Alain Aspect performed what may turn out to be one of the most important experiments of the 20th century. You did not hear about it on the evening news. In fact, unless you are in the habit of reading scientific journals you probably have never even heard Aspect's name, though there are some who believe his discovery may change the face of science. Aspect and his team discovered that under certain circumstances subatomic particles such as electrons are able to instantaneously communicate with each other regardless of the distance separating them. It doesn't matter whether they are 10 feet or 10 billion miles apart. Somehow each particle always seems to know what the other is doing. The problem with this feat is that it violates Einstein's long-held tenet that no communication can travel faster than the speed of light. Since traveling faster than the speed of light is tantamount to breaking the time barrier, this daunting prospect has caused some physicists to try to come up with elaborate ways to explain away Aspect's findings. But it has inspired others to offer even more radical explanations. University of London physicist David Bohm, for example, believes Aspect's findings imply that objective reality does not exist, that despite its apparent solidity the universe is at heart a phantasm, a gigantic and splendidly detailed hologram. To understand why Bohm makes this startling assertion, one must first understand a little about holograms. A hologram is a three- dimensional photograph made with the aid of a laser. To make a hologram, the object to be photographed is first bathed in the light of a laser beam. Then a second laser beam is bounced off the reflected light of the first and the resulting interference pattern (the area where the two laser beams commingle) is captured on film. When the film is developed, it looks like a meaningless swirl of light and dark lines. But as soon as the developed film is illuminated by another laser beam, a three-dimensional image of the original object appears. The three-dimensionality of such images is not the only remarkable characteristic of holograms. If a hologram of a rose is cut in half and then illuminated by a laser, each half will still be found to contain the entire image of the rose. Indeed, even if the halves are divided again, each snippet of film will always be found to contain a smaller but intact version of the original image. Unlike normal photographs, every part of a hologram contains all the information possessed by the whole. The "whole in every part" nature of a hologram provides us with an entirely new way of understanding organization and order. For most of its history, Western science has labored under the bias that the best way to understand a physical phenomenon, whether a frog or an atom, is to dissect it and study its respective parts. A hologram teaches us that some things in the universe may not lend themselves to this approach. If we try to take apart something constructed holographically, we will not get the pieces of which it is made, we will only get smaller wholes. This insight suggested to Bohm another way of understanding Aspect's discovery. Bohm believes the reason subatomic particles are able to remain in contact with one another regardless of the distance separating them is not because they are sending some sort of mysterious signal back and forth, but because their separateness is an illusion. He argues that at some deeper level of reality such particles are not individual entities, but are actually extensions of the same fundamental something. To enable people to better visualize what he means, Bohm offers the following illustration. Imagine an aquarium containing a fish. Imagine also that you are unable to see the aquarium directly and your knowledge about it and what it contains comes from two television cameras, one directed at the aquarium's front and the other directed at its side. As you stare at the two television monitors, you might assume that the fish on each of the screens are separate entities. After all, because the cameras are set at different angles, each of the images will be slightly different. But as you continue to watch the two fish, you will eventually become aware that there is a certain relationship between them. When one turns, the other also makes a slightly different but corresponding turn; when one faces the front, the other always faces toward the side. If you remain unaware of the full scope of the situation, you might even conclude that the fish must be instantaneously communicating with one another, but this is clearly not the case. This, says Bohm, is precisely what is going on between the subatomic particles in Aspect's experiment. According to Bohm, the apparent faster-than-light connection between subatomic particles is really telling us that there is a deeper level of reality we are not privy to, a more complex dimension beyond our own that is analogous to the aquarium. And, he adds, we view objects such as subatomic particles as separate from one another because we are seeing only a portion of their reality. Such particles are not separate "parts", but facets of a deeper and more underlying unity that is ultimately as holographic and indivisible as the previously mentioned rose. And since everything in physical reality is comprised of these "eidolons", the universe is itself a projection, a hologram. In addition to its phantomlike nature, such a universe would possess other rather startling features. If the apparent separateness of subatomic particles is illusory, it means that at a deeper level of reality all things in the universe are infinitely interconnected. The electrons in a carbon atom in the human brain are connected to the subatomic particles that comprise every salmon that swims, every heart that beats, and every star that shimmers in the sky. Everything interpenetrates everything, and although human nature may seek to categorize and pigeonhole and subdivide, the various phenomena of the universe, all apportionments are of necessity artificial and all of nature is ultimately a seamless web. In a holographic universe, even time and space could no longer be viewed as fundamentals. Because concepts such as location break down in a universe in which nothing is truly separate from anything else, time and three-dimensional space, like the images of the fish on the TV monitors, would also have to be viewed as projections of this deeper order. At its deeper level reality is a sort of superhologram in which the past, present, and future all exist simultaneously. This suggests that given the proper tools it might even be possible to someday reach into the superholographic level of reality and pluck out scenes from the long-forgotten past. What else the superhologram contains is an open-ended question. Allowing, for the sake of argument, that the superhologram is the matrix that has given birth to everything in our universe, at the very least it contains every subatomic particle that has been or will be -- every configuration of matter and energy that is possible, from snowflakes to quasars, from bluŸ whales to gamma rays. It must be seen as a sort of cosmic storehouse of "All That Is." Although Bohm concedes that we have no way of knowing what else might lie hidden in the superhologram, he does venture to say that we have no reason to assume it does not contain more. Or as he puts it, perhaps the superholographic level of reality is a "mere stage" beyond which lies "an infinity of further development". Bohm is not the only researcher who has found evidence that the universe is a hologram. Working independently in the field of brain research, Standford neurophysiologist Karl Pribram has also become persuaded of the holographic nature of reality. Pribram was drawn to the holographic model by the puzzle of how and where memories are stored in the brain. For decades numerous studies have shown that rather than being confined to a specific location, memories are dispersed throughout the brain. In a series of landmark experiments in the 1920s, brain scientist Karl Lashley found that no matter what portion of a rat's brain he removed he was unable to eradicate its memory of how to perform complex tasks it had learned prior to surgery. The only problem was that no one was able to come up with a mechanism that might explain this curious "whole in every part" nature of memory storage. Then in the 1960s Pribram encountered the concept of holography and realized he had found the explanation brain scientists had been looking for. Pribram believes memories are encoded not in neurons, or small groupings of neurons, but in patterns of nerve impulses that crisscross the entire brain in the same way that patterns of laser light interference crisscross the entire area of a piece of film containing a holographic image. In other words, Pribram believes the brain is itself a hologram. Pribram's theory also explains how the human brain can store so many memories in so little space. It has been estimated that the human brain has the capacity to memorize something on the order of 10 billion bits of information during the average human lifetime (or roughly the same amount of information contained in five sets of the Encyclopaedia Britannica). Similarly, it has been discovered that in addition to their other capabilities, holograms possess an astounding capacity for information storage--simply by changing the angle at which the two lasers strike a piece of photographic film, it is possible to record many different images on the same surface. It has been demonstrated that one cubic centimeter of film can hold as many as 10 billion bits of information. Our uncanny ability to quickly retrieve whatever information we need from the enormous store of our memories becomes more understandable if the brain functions according to holographic principles. If a friend asks you to tell him what comes to mind when he says the word "zebra", you do not have to clumsily sort back through ome gigantic and cerebral alphabetic file to arrive at an answer. Instead, associations like "striped", "horselike", and "animal native to Africa" all pop into your head instantly. Indeed, one of the most amazing things about the human thinking process is that every piece of information seems instantly cross- correlated with every other piece of information--another feature intrinsic to the hologram. Because every portion of a hologram is infinitely interconnected with ever other portion, it is perhaps nature's supreme example of a cross-correlated system. The storage of memory is not the only neurophysiological puzzle that becomes more tractable in light of Pribram's holographic model of the brain. Another is how the brain is able to translate the avalanche of frequencies it receives via the senses (light frequencies, sound frequencies, and so on) into the concrete world of our perceptions. Encoding and decoding frequencies is precisely what a hologram does best. Just as a hologram functions as a sort of lens, a translating device able to convert an apparently meaningless blur of frequencies into a coherent image, Pribram believes the brain also comprises a lens and uses holographic principles to mathematically convert the frequencies it receives through he senses into the inner world of our perceptions. An impressive body of evidence suggests that the brain uses holographic principles to perform its operations. Pribram's theory, in fact, has gained increasing support among neurophysiologists. Argentinian-Italian researcher Hugo Zucarelli recently extended the holographic model into the world of acoustic phenomena. Puzzled by the fact that humans can locate the source of sounds without moving their heads, even if they only possess hearing in one ear, Zucarelli discovered that holographic principles can explain this ability. Zucarelli has also developed the technology of holophonic sound, a recording technique able to reproduce acoustic situations with an almost uncanny realism. Pribram's belief that our brains mathematically construct "hard" reality by relying on input from a frequency domain has also received a good deal of experimental support. It has been found that each of our senses is sensitive to a much broader range of frequencies than was previously suspected. Researchers have discovered, for instance, that our visual systems are sensitive to sound frequencies, that our sense of smell is in part dependent on what are now called "osmic frequencies", and that even the cells in our bodies are sensitive to a broad range of frequencies. Such findings suggest that it is only in the holographic domain of consciousness that such frequencies are sorted out and divided up into conventional perceptions. But the most mind-boggling aspect of Pribram's holographic model of the brain is what happens when it is put together with Bohm's theory. For if the concreteness of the world is but a secondary reality and what is "there" is actually a holographic blur of frequencies, and if the brain is also a hologram and only selects some of the frequencies out of this blur and mathematically transforms them into sensory perceptions, what becomes of objective reality? Put quite simply, it ceases to exist. As the religions of the East have long upheld, the material world is Maya, an illusion, and although we may think we are physical beings moving through a physical world, this too is an illusion. We are really "receivers" floating through a kaleidoscopic sea of frequency, and what we extract from this sea and transmogrify into physical reality is but one channel from many extracted out of the superhologram. This striking new picture of reality, the synthesis of Bohm and Pribram's views, has come to be called the holographic paradigm, and although many scientists have greeted it with skepticism, it has galvanized others. A small but growing group of researchers believe it may be the most accurate model of reality science has arrived at thus far. More than that, some believe it may solve some mysteries that have never before been explainable by science and even establish the paranormal as a part of nature. Numerous researchers, including Bohm and Pribram, have noted that many para-psychological phenomena become much more understandable in terms of the holographic paradigm. In a universe in which individual brains are actually indivisible portions of the greater hologram and everything is infinitely interconnected, telepathy may merely be the accessing of the holographic level. It is obviously much easier to understand how information can travel from the mind of individual 'A' to that of individual 'B' at a far distance point and helps to understand a number of unsolved puzzles in psychology. In particular, Grof feels the holographic paradigm offers a model for understanding many of the baffling phenomena experienced by individuals during altered states of consciousness. In the 1950s, while conducting research into the beliefs of LSD as a psychotherapeutic tool, Grof had one female patient who suddenly became convinced she had assumed the identity of a female of a species of prehistoric reptile. During the course of her hallucination, she not only gave a richly detailed description of what it felt like to be encapsuled in such a form, but noted that the portion of the male of the species's anatomy was a patch of colored scales on the side of its head. What was startling to Grof was that although the woman had no prior knowledge about such things, a conversation with a zoologist later confirmed that in certain species of reptiles colored areas on the head do indeed play an important role as triggers of sexual arousal. The woman's experience was not unique. During the course of his research, Grof encountered examples of patients regressing and identifying with virtually every species on the evolutionary tree (research findings which helped influence the man-into-ape scene in the movie Altered States). Moreover, he found that such experiences frequently contained obscure zoological details which turned out to be accurate. Regressions into the animal kingdom were not the only puzzling psychological phenomena Grof encountered. He also had patients who appeared to tap into some sort of collective or racial unconscious. Individuals with little or no education suddenly gave detailed descriptions of Zoroastrian funerary practices and scenes from Hindu mythology. In other categories of experience, individuals gave persuasive accounts of out-of-body journeys, of precognitive glimpses of the future, of regressions into apparent past-life incarnations. In later research, Grof found the same range of phenomena manifested in therapy sessions which did not involve the use of drugs. Because the common element in such experiences appeared to be the transcending of an individual's consciousness beyond the usual boundaries of ego and/or limitations of space and time, Grof called such manifestations "transpersonal experiences", and in the late '60s he helped found a branch of psychology called "transpersonal psychology" devoted entirely to their study. Although Grof's newly founded Association of Transpersonal Psychology garnered a rapidly growing group of like-minded professionals and has become a respected branch of psychology, for years neither Grof or any of his colleagues were able to offer a mechanism for explaining the bizarre psychological phenomena they were witnessing. But that has changed with the advent of the holographic paradigm. As Grof recently noted, if the mind is actually part of a continuum, a labyrinth that is connected not only to every other mind that exists or has existed, but to every atom, organism, and region in the vastness of space and time itself, the fact that it is able to occasionally make forays into the labyrinth and have transpersonal experiences no longer seems so strange. The holographic prardigm also has implications for so-called hard sciences like biology. Keith Floyd, a psychologist at Virginia Intermont College, has pointed out that if the concreteness of reality is but a holographic illusion, it would no longer be true to say the brain produces consciousness. Rather, it is consciousness that creates the appearance of the brain -- as well as the body and everything else around us we interpret as physical. Such a turnabout in the way we view biological structures has caused researchers to point out that medicine and our understanding of the healing process could also be transformed by the holographic paradigm. If the apparent physical structure of the body is but a holographic projection of consciousness, it becomes clear that each of us is much more responsible for our health than current medical wisdom allows. What we now view as miraculous remissions of disease may actually be due to changes in consciousness which in turn effect changes in the hologram of the body. Similarly, controversial new healing techniques such as visualization may work so well because in the holographic domain of thought images are ultimately as real as "reality". Even visions and experiences involving "non-ordinary" reality become explainable under the holographic paradigm. In his book "Gifts of Unknown Things," biologist Lyall Watson discribes his encounter with an Indonesian shaman woman who, by performing a ritual dance, was able to make an entire grove of trees instantly vanish into thin air. Watson relates that as he and another astonished onlooker continued to watch the woman, she caused the trees to reappear, then "click" off again and on again several times in succession. Although current scientific understanding is incapable of explaining such events, experiences like this become more tenable if "hard" reality is only a holographic projection. Perhaps we agree on what is "there" or "not there" because what we call consensus reality is formulated and ratified at the level of the human unconscious at which all minds are infinitely interconnected. If this is true, it is the most profound implication of the holographic paradigm of all, for it means that experiences such as Watson's are not commonplace only because we have not programmed our minds with the beliefs that would make them so. In a holographic universe there are no limits to the extent to which we can alter the fabric of reality. What we perceive as reality is only a canvas waiting for us to draw upon it any picture we want. Anything is possible, from bending spoons with the power of the mind to the phantasmagoric events experienced by Castaneda during his encounters with the Yaqui brujo don Juan, for magic is our birthright, no more or less miraculous than our ability to compute the reality we want when we are in our dreams. Indeed, even our most fundamental notions about reality become suspect, for in a holographic universe, as Pribram has pointed out, even random events would have to be seen as based on holographic principles and therefore determined. Synchronicities or meaningful coincidences suddenly makes sense, and everything in reality would have to be seen as a metaphor, for even the most haphazard events would express some underlying symmetry. Whether Bohm and Pribram's holographic paradigm becomes accepted in science or dies an ignoble death remains to be seen, but it is safe to say that it has already had an influence on the thinking of many scientists. And even if it is found that the holographic model does not provide the best explanation for the instantaneous communications that seem to be passing back and forth between subatomic particles, at the very least, as noted by Basil Hiley, a physicist at Birbeck College in London, Aspect's findings "indicate that we must be prepared to consider radically new views of reality". [Dit bericht is aangepast door Kenny McCormick (23-07-2001).] |
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23-07-2001, 16:36 | |
De matrix-fysica, kort uitgelegd, gaat ervan uit dat er een oneindig aantal statische realiteiten is, waarbinnen tijd en ruimte coordinaten zijn. In elk van de realiteiten bevindt materie zich op een of meer andere coordinaten dan in de andere realiteiten.
De EPR-paradox is de (mislukte) poging van Einstein om aan te tonen dat Bohr ernaast zat. Het is tevens waar het experiment van Aspect om gaat. Als twee elektronen deel uitmaken van het zelfde systeem, kunnen ze met dezelfde golfbeweging beschreven worden. Als ze vervolgens uit elkaar geschoten worden (met welke snelheid dan ook), blijven ze deel uitmaken van hetzelfde systeem, dus kunnen ze nog steeds met dezelfde golfbeweging beschreven worden. Van beide elektronen is de spin onbepaald, maar als je op een van de twee een meting uitvoert en daar op die manier achter komt (en bepaalt) of de spin negatief of positief is, dan wordt het op precies hetzelfde moment van het andere elektron ook bepaald. Oftewel: er vindt instant-communicatie plaats, sneller dan het licht. Volgens Einstein was dit onmogelijk, maar het experiment van Aspect toonde aan dat dit wel degelijk het geval was. |
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hoe moet ik de aquarium-visie voorstellen? dat op welke plek we ook zijn, we altijd hetzelfde waarnemen, alleen vanaf een ander perspectief? Put quite simply, it ceases to exist. As the religions of the East have long upheld, the material world is Maya, an illusion, and although we may think we are physical beings moving through a physical world, this too is an illusion. we zijn niet van materie zoals we nu denken, maar We are really "receivers" floating through a kaleidoscopic sea of frequency, and what we extract from this sea and transmogrify into physical reality is but one channel from many extracted out of the superhologram volgens mij heeft die gast zelf ook iets teveel LSD gebruikt in the 1950s, while conducting research into the beliefs of LSD as a psychotherapeutic tool misschien zal de werkelijkheid wel overeenkomsten hebben met lasers en hologrammen, maar ik weet dat ik van materie gemaakt ben, en niet slechts een ontvanger ben in een kaleidoscope. alleen het idee al... wel orgineel hoor, maar ik hoef er niet eens over na te denken om dit als onwerkelijk en onwaar te mogen definieren (tenzij ik het allemaal verkeerd opvat, aangezien engels niet mijn primary language is) was wel interesant om te lezen, maar echt realistisch zou ik het niet willen noemen (was 30 minuten kwijt met het topic te lezen ) |
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Er zijn geen feiten, er zijn slechts interpretaties! En dit was voor mij persoonlijk wel leuk om te lezen: "What we now view as miraculous remissions of disease may actually be due to changes in consciousness which in turn effect changes in the hologram of the body." Het heeft even wat tijd gekost, maar het is wel super interessant!
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Dit soort dingen geven nu weer aan dat er meer is dan het hier en nu. En nee, AXE, ik doel nu niet meteen op God en de hemel en onze ziel, maar dit maakt duidelijk dat er ook dingen zijn waarvan we nog niets weten, dat er meer is dan wat we tot nu hebben waargenomen.
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Zo, weer een half uur verder.
Leuke titel trouwens: "De nieuwe natuurkundige theorie van het holografische universum." Zo nieuw is ie toch niet meer? Kijk maar?: Citaat:
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ZO nieuw dus ook weer niet. Verder ontztttend interessant. Serieus! En zoals Joël al zei: Echt iets dat je aan het nadenken zet over hoeveel de mens nog niet ontdekt heeft. (Ja, dit heb ik letterlijk overgenomen.)
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Dit weer. AXE: Je denkt veels te empististisch.
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Je weet dat je materie bent. Dat klopt inderdaad. Dat komt omdat "materie" een afspraak is. Maar dan nog steeds kun je niet bewijzen dat er een buitenwereld bestaat. Je kunt het hooguit aannemen op basis van gezond verstand. Zie je het verschil?
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25-07-2001, 09:32 | |
Verbluffende theorie vind ik het.
BTW deze hologramtheorie is volgens mij heel goed verenigbaar met de matrix-mechanica. Erger nog, als jullie het niet wisten; een hologram IS een bepaald type matrix. Zelf heb ik ook altijd gedacht: locatie en tijd betekenen niks, het is enkel waar het belevend subject (de persona, je ziel als je wilt) hinder van ondervind. *thinks* die bewering van 'ik WEET dat ik uit materie besta' komt volgens mij neer, als je alle andere invloeden eruit filtert, op 'ik wil bestaan en leven', wat heel normaal is, dé basisemotie van leven. Denk dit ff door ik kan dit in 3 pagina's tekst net zo goed uitleggen als je zelf in een minuut or so kan bedenken... Lees eens het boek 'Rivier van blauw vuur'(schrijver vergeten) gaat over een holografische simulatie.(een simulatie in de 'echte' wereld (voor ons echte). Mensen komen er vast te zitten en gaan daar gewoon hun leven leiden. In de echte wereld zijn er allerlei manipulerende apparaten aan hun breinen en zenuwbanen aangesloten, zodat er informatie (visueel, maar ook gevoel en evenwicht etc.) van de simulatie wordt ingevoerd en de informatie uit de echte wereld word onderdrukt (d.w.z. ze voelen niet dat ze in een stoel zitten, of een VR-bril op hun hoofd hebben. Intrigerend he? Maar hoe bewijs je nou dat onze 'realiteit' niet een simulatie is van 'anderen'?
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25-07-2001, 09:36 | |
trouwens (ik weet dat het ver gaat maar toch..)
als je die holohramtheorie combineert met de matrixtheorie, de quantummechanica(schrodingers kat je kent hem wel.) en de relativiteitstheorie (plus een snufje wet van Murphy ) kom je tot de conclusie: alles wat kan bestaan, bestaat. Niet hier en nu maar het is er. Korter gezegd, het word mijn nieuwe lijfspreuk en ik vind dat het objectivisme, realisme en onafhankelijkheid uistraalt.(ja zo kan ie wel weer, ik met mijn opsommingen...): Alles is
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[quote]AXE schreef alles wat ik waarneem 'bewijst' het, dat is bewijs genoeg voor mij anders kun je nergens zeker van zijn (kun je theoretisch gezien ook niet) je kunt je zintuigen niet altijd vertrouwen. welke filosoof zei dat ook al weer? er is een verschil tussen 'wetenschappelijk feiten' en 'het vermoeden van een paar wetenschappers' die paar wetenschappers hebben toch bewijzen voor hun ideeen? |
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Ja dat experiments is waar gebeurd, is ook allang geaccepteerd.
Maar dat heeft nix met informatie-overdracht te maken, meer met de definitie van meten en waarnemingen. Dat is een heel diepe vraag in de natuurkunde waarop nog steeds geen sluitend antwoord is... En nog even iets, dat van die hologrammen is volgens mij helemaal niet waar, ik bedoel als je ze halveert hou je helemaal niet het hele beeld over, op deze manier kan er volgens jou oneindig veel informatie op een stukje hologram...
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Wel grappig. Dit staat ook in eeuwenoude geschriften, maar die mensen hebben het niet gemeten maar opgevangen uit een Inspiratie.
Toch is het goed dat de wetenschap nu moeite doet om de wetenschappelijke ondergrond voor de spiritualiteit uit te breiden. Dat was vroeger niet mogelijk en nu wel. |
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Het enige wat we hebben is dat er een schijnbare informatie-overdracht is, maar waarschijnlijk heeft dit meer met meten te maken. Het hele hologram verhaal is dus een PERSOONLIJKE FILOSOFIE van deze wetenschapper(s), net zoals de matrix-fysica, die je trouwens prima kunt gebruiken om je wangedrag goed te praten. Nou ja, ga je gang
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Leuk artikel. Een deel hangt heel erg tegen Alfred North Whitehead's filosofie, nl. het net van Indra, dat alle deeltjes 'interzijn'. Het wordt soms lomp uitgedrukt als een grote hoeveelheid spiegelende diamanten waarin je in alle diamant het spiegelbeeld van andere diamanten kunt zien (ik vind het lomp omdat diamanten statisch zijn). Deeltjes zijn dus een soort afhankelijkheidsrelaties.
Ook hangt het aan tegen de visie op de werkelijkheid in Boeddhistische geschriften. Het schijnt nl dat je het gedeelte dat conceptie van tijd en ruimte (die volgens de bovenstaande theorie illusie zijn) in je hersenen uitgeschakeld kunenn worden door meditatie waardoor 'het zijn' werkelijk ervaren kan worden. Vandaar dat men 2000 jaar geleden tot soortgelijke theorieen konden komen zonder metingen o.i.d. |
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soulless wat doe je?!? dit is een half jaar oudddddddd!! geen zinn meer in hoor. maar over het halveren das mooi wel zo. Als je een holografische plaat doormidden snijdt hebben beiden nog steeds de hele afbeelding. Elk punt bevat nl. de hele afbeelding.
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Vooroordelen roelen. Ik word meteen afgestempeld als vaag reli-type.
Nou laat dat reli er maar af. De enige reden waarom mijn reactie spiritueel was is omdat de antwoorden op vragen rond het universum makkelijk te vinden zijn wanneer je beseft dat spiritualiteit en kwantummechanica gelijken zijn en je daar met een beetje gezond verstand heel ver mee komt. |
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Maar letterlijk alles wat ik in de praktijk meemaak wijst erop dus dan neem ik dat maar aan totdat ik aanleiding heb om dat niet meer te geloven. Wou je soms beweren dat jij niet in je eigen realiteit gelooft? Citaat:
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Ehm, de schrijver van dit artikel heeft ergens de klok horen luiden maar weet overduidelijk niet waar de klepel hangt.
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Het artikel gaat verder met een korte beschrijving van het holographic principle, maar gaat daar juist voorbij aan het in de juiste context plaatsen van dit principe. Het is nl. puur en alleen van toepassing op informatie. Het holographic principle zegt dat de hoeveelheid informatie die een ruimtetijd gebied maximaal kan bevatten, gelijk is aan de oppervlakte van dat ruimtetijd gebied. De naam die aan dit principe werd gegeven was het holographic principle, omdat je bij een hologram ook hebt dat een 3 dimensionaal beeld in 2 dimensies wordt weergegeven. Maar meer dan een analogie is dit niet. Het holographic principle wordt in dit artikel zelfs volledig uit z'n band gerukt, de zoveelste verkrachting van de natuurkunde door van die new age figuren Citaat:
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en god bestaat omdat de natuur er vaak mooi uitziet en het menselijk lichaam zo goed in elkaar zit |
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Mensen die in goden geloven zullen ook wel niet veel moeite hebben met deze theorie als waarheid te aanvaarden. |
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Nou zou ik het hele artikel nog een keer door kunnen lezen om je een tegenstrijdigheid of een ongeldige beredenering te kunnen geven, maar dat is me nu iets te veel werk.
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Waarom zou het dan wel zo zijn? De mogelijkheid dat iets zou kunnen is geen argument om aan te nemen dat het zo is. Citaat:
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Dit topic is natuurlijk ook al weer een jaar of twee oud, en ik had nu eenmaal geen zin om alles weer te lezen, dus ik wist ook niet meer precies waar het ook al weer over ging. Maar ik denk dat AXE iig begrijpt hoe ik het bedoelde. (Overigens had ik het niet meer echt over het theorie van het holografische universum meer, maar meer over theorieën in het algemeen. Misschien leek het alsof ik beweerde dat de theorie waar dit topic over gaat afgedaan moet worden als 'onwaarschijnlijk', maar zo heb ik het absoluut niet bedoeld.)
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