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Iemand op Pure Fantasy zei ooit dat hij in het Engels schreef omdat hij zijn gevoelens dan beter kon uitdrukken. bleek achteraf dat hij met dit afkwam: "I could already hear them grunt in the darkness ahead. I quickened my pace, well aware that I was now very near my goal. But suddenly I halted. Had I heard one of them squeal in agony? It had sounded like that. I stood still and sharpened my ears. It was quiet now. I snuck ahead, being as quietly and cautious as possible. I silently drew my spear in case anything would attack me. Another call. It sounded as if the caller was in agony, again. This time it was a low moan. It was immediately followed by a strange, frightening gobble, like a turkeys, only much deeper and scarier. I pressed myself against the nearest wall, for it sounded very close. I had just arrived at a corner in the large tunnel, and I had no clear sight of the other side of the corner. I knew a wisent had to be really close. I waited." Voor iemand die Engels als tweede of derde taal gebruikt, klinkt dit behoorlijk goed... Maar weet je waarmee dit equivalent is voor iemand die Engels als moedertaal heeft? "Ik kon ze meteen al in het duisternis horen grommen. Ik versnelde mijn tempo, omdat ik mij ervan bewust was dichtbij mijn doel te zijn. Maar opeens hield ik op. (...) Stil trok ik mijn speer voor het geval iets mij zou aanvallen. opnieuw geroep. Het klonk alsof de schreeuwer helse pijn had, opnieuw. Deze keer was het een diepe kreun. Het werd onmiddellijk gevolgd door een vreemde, beangstigende gerochel, net als een kalkoen, maar dan veel dieper en erger." Snap je mijn punt? Het is taalkundig allemaal heel correct Engels, maar verhaaltechnisch lijkt het opeens een heel stuk minder sterk over te komen, dan je op het eerste gezicht zou denken als anderstalige. Mijn advies? Schrijf enkel in een vreemde taal verhalen, als je die taal héél héél grondig beheerst, niet enkel grammaticaal, maar ook wat taalgevoel betreft. Verhaaleffecten die in het Nederlands bvb heel goed werken, zullen dat in het Engels niet doen en andersom. Laatst gewijzigd op 17-08-2010 om 01:39. |
17-08-2010, 00:06 | ||
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Maar ik geef je geheel gelijk hoor. Taalgevoel is zo subtiel, dat is echt heel anders dan grammatica. @Luna: Dat citaat 'Everything will be okay in the end. If it's not okay, it's not the end' - ik neem aan dat je het niet moet opvatten als 'alles heeft een happy end' op de Disney manier. Want niet alles hééft een happy ending. Ik zeg niet dat ik er zeker van ben dat ik wel begrijp wat ermee bedoelt wordt, maar als ik zo snel even denk, dan vermoed ik dat ermee bedoeld wordt dat je niet op moet geven. Als het niet goed is, is het niet het einde. En als het niet het einde is, dan kun je nog doorgaan... tot het wel goed is! In de zin van dat álles een goed einde kan hebben, misschien haal je dat einde niet, maar zo lang het nog niet goed is, kun je nog doorgaan. If it's not okay, it's not the end... |
17-08-2010, 18:33 | |
@FA: Hah! Het ligt er helemaal aan wie het schrijft. Want dat Engels is echt van niveau -23. Een Nederlander kan prima in het Engels schrijven, en dan ook nog eens beter dan als hij het in het Nederlanders zou schrijven. Vind ik.
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17-08-2010, 18:40 | ||
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"there's something about the sunshine baby, im seeing you in a whole new light" Heel slecht waarschijnlijk, maar vóór ik wist dat-ie in een liedje zat zei iemand 'm tegen mij, en ik vond 'm schattig, dat je de schuld geeft aan de zonnesc... laat maar. ik vind teveel schattig "maybe this world is another planet's hell" Daar moest ik om lachen, een beetje. Zag 'm op iemands blog staan. Vond 't een interessante gedachte. Maar echt iets prachtigs in één zinnetje weet ik zo snel niet op te hoesten. |
17-08-2010, 18:48 | ||
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Nou ja, het hoeft niet per se dat iemand beter Engels kan dan Nederlands, maar dat ie beter kan schrijven, of vertellen, in het Engels. Ja, dan zou je kunnen zeggen dat die persoon dan echt wel beter Engels kan dan Nederlands, maar het hoeft niet, vind ik. ()
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17-08-2010, 20:02 | ||
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Maar dat is de uitzondering, niet de regel. Het stukje dat ik gepost heb, is echt wel in lijn met wat een bovengemiddeld scholier aan het einde van zijn middelbaar zal schrijven in die taal. |
18-08-2010, 10:37 | |
Ik vind het altijd een beetje aanstellerig, als mensen in het Engels gaan schrijven. Al helemaal als het van die vreselijke msn-naam zinnetjes zijn. Ik neem iemand veel serieuzer als ie gewoon in het Nederlands schrijft.
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09-09-2010, 16:31 | |
The Question that sometimes drives me hazy: Am I, or the others crazy?
Imagination is more important than knowledge. knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world. beide van Albert Einstein In the end, it's not the years in your life that count, it's the life in your years. Abraham Lincoln Which would be worse to live as a monster, or to die as a good person. Shutter Island (leonardo diCaprio) A belief is not merely an idea the mind possesses, It's an idea that possesses the mind Robert Oxton Bolt You're waiting for a train, a train that will take you far away. You know where you hope this train will take you, but you don't know for sure. But it doesn't matter. How can it not matter to you where the train will take you? Because you'll be together. Inception (leonardo DiCaprio/Marion Cottilard) |
21-09-2010, 18:39 | |
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ik heb er n nieuwe sport van gemaakt, om goede teksten die bij me passen uit liedjes te halen
dit is mn nieuwste aanwinst van een van mn favoriete rappers And I just can't keep living this way So starting today, I'm breaking out of this cage I'm standing up, Imma face my demons I'm manning up, Imma hold my ground I've had enough, now I'm so fed up Time to put my life back together right now is van eminem met not afraid |
14-10-2010, 14:58 | |
THE ROAD NOT TAKEN
Two roads diverged in a yellow wood, And sorry I could not travel both And be one traveler, long I stood And looked down one as far as I could To where it bent in the undergrowth; Then took the other, as just as fair, And having perhaps the better claim, Because it was grassy and wanted wear; Though as for that the passing there Had worn them really about the same, And both that morning equally lay In leaves no step had trodden black. Oh, I kept the first for another day! Yet knowing how way leads on to way, I doubted if I should ever come back. I shall be telling this with a sigh Somewhere ages and ages hence: Two roads diverged in a wood, and I— I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference Robert Frost |
08-11-2010, 14:17 | |
Until you are no longer the pictures that chase me down a flight of screens each night. Until the the part of me that you first touched, forgets.
And just as we built them, we took the buildings down, brick by brick. We took the steel and the gold and the silver and the oil and put them back beneath the skin of the earth where they belonged. We turned the roads back to rocks and grass and flowers. We told the animals "We're sorry." We took our clothes off and felt the wind on our skin and you and I, we were not ashamed. Then we turned around, and walked back into the sea. Maybe we're notes, plucked from strings we cannot see. Maybe we're all echoes of each other. Maybe that sound is all you are. You took all my words when all I wanted to do was say them.
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14-05-2011, 19:56 | |
Uit het boek Things Fall Apart:
"He stretched himself and scratched his thigh where a mosquito had bitten him as he slept. Another one was wailing near his right ear. Why do they always go for one's ear? When he was a child his mother had told him a story about it. [...] Mosquito, she had said, had asked Ear to marry him, whereupon Ear fell on the floor in uncontrollable laughter. "How much longer do you think you will live?" she asked. "You are already a skeleton." Mosquito went away humiliated, and any time he passed her way he told Ear he was still alive.
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31-05-2011, 14:19 | |
your mind works like lightning, one brilliant flash then it's gone
i don't suffer from insanity... i enjoy every minute of it your weirdness is creeping my imaginairy friend out partens spend the first half of your life teaching you to walk and talk. and the other half telling you to sit down and shut up I'd rather be hated for who I am, then loved for who I'm not even a white rose has a black shadow giving up doesn't always mean you're weak, sometimes it means that you're strong enough to let it go A good friend will comfort you when you're boyfriend breaks up with you...but a best friend will go up to him and ask "It's because you're gay isn't it?" make love, not war we remember the ones who died young it's better to say too much, then never to say what you need to say if you could hear me i would say that our fingerprints don't fade from the lives we've touched Love is when you shed a tear and still want him it's when he ignores you and you still love him it's when he loves another girl but you still smile and say i'm happy for you, when al you really do is cry too often we underestimate the power of a touch, a smile, a kind word, a listening ear, an honest compliment or the smallest act of caring. All of which have the potential to turn a live around start with nothing, you've got nothing to lose miracles happen oce in a while, when you believe never dry your tears if you still wanna cry |
09-06-2011, 21:34 | |
Juist midden op de reistocht van ons leven,
Zag ik mij in een donker woud verloren, Daar ik van 't goede pad was afgeweken Helaas hoe 't was dat woud valt zwaar te zeggen Zo dicht was 't zo woest dat de angsten nog herleven bij 't herdenken Maar om van 't heil dat ik daar vond te spreken Zal 'k ook verhalen wat ik 't eerst aanschouwde Toen de slaap me had ??? Even uit mijn hoofd het begin van de Goddelijke Komedie zoals vertaald door C. Koppen. Alle andere vertalingen zijn naar mijn mening inferieur. |
11-06-2011, 12:53 | |
Sommige uitdagingen win je, tegen sommige leg je het af. Als je er een wint, voel je je lekker en sterk zodat je waarschijnlijk ook de volgende wint. Hoe meer je er wint, hoe makkelijker het wordt. Maak er een gewoonte van.
(Theaterhangaar, waar SvO gespeeld wordt)
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20-07-2011, 13:44 | |
Wizard's First Rule:
"People are stupid; given proper motivation, almost anyone will believe almost anything. Because people are stupid, they will believe a lie because they want to believe it?s true, or because they?re afraid it might be true. Peoples? heads are full of knowledge, facts and beliefs, and most of it is false, yet they think it all true. People are stupid; they can only rarely tell the difference between a lie and the truth, and yet they are confident they can, and so are all the easier to fool." (Chapter 36, Page #397 US Hard Cover) Wizard's Second Rule: "The Second Rule is that the greatest harm can result from the best intentions." (Chapter 63, Page #634 US Hard Cover) Wizard's Third Rule: "Passion rules reason." (Chapter 43, Page #360 US Hard Cover) Wizard's Fourth Rule: "The Wizard's Fourth Rule, he called it. He said that there was magic in sincere forgiveness, in the Fourth Rule. Magic to heal. In forgiveness you grant, and more so in the forgiveness you receive." (Chapter 41, Page #318 US Hard Cover) Wizard's Fifth Rule: "Mind what people do, not only what they say, for deeds will betray a lie." (Chapter 28, Page #205 US Hard Cover) Wizard's Sixth Rule: "The most important rule there is, the Wizard's Sixth Rule: the only sovereign you can allow to rule you is reason. The first law of reason is this: what exists, exists, what is, is and from this irreducible bedrock principle, all knowledge is built. It is the foundation from which life is embraced. Thinking is a choice. Wishes and whims are not facts nor are they a means to discover them. Reason is our only way of grasping reality; it is our basic tool of survival. We are free to evade the effort of thinking, to reject reason, but we are not free to avoid the penalty of the abyss that we refuse to see. Faith and feelings are the darkness to reasons light. In rejecting reason, refusing to think, one embraces death." (Chapter 41, Page #319 US Hard Cover) Wizard's Seventh Rule: "Life is the future, not the past. The past can teach us, through experience, how to accomplish things in the future, comfort us with cherished memories, and provide the foundation of what has already been accomplished. But only the future holds life. To live in the past is to embrace what is dead. To live life to its fullest, each day must be created anew. As rational, thinking beings, we must use our intellect, not a blind devotion to what has come before, to make rational choices." (Chapter 60 Page #549) Wizard's Eighth Rule: "Talga Vassternich. Deserve Victory." (Chapter 61 Page #626 US Hard Cover) Wizard's Ninth Rule: "A contradiction can not exist in reality. Not in part, nor in whole. To believe in a contradiction is to abdicate your belief in the existence of the world around you and the nature of the things in it, to instead embrace any random impulse that strikes your fancy ? to imagine something is real simply because you wish it were. A thing is what it is, it is itself. There can be no contradictions. Faith is a device of self-delusion, a sleight of hand done with words and emotions founded on any irrational notion that can be dreamed up. Faith is the attempt to coerce truth to surrender to whim. In simple terms, it is trying to breath life into a lie by trying to outshine reality with the beauty of wishes. Faith is the refuge of fools, the ignorant, and the deluded, not of thinking, rational men. In reality, contradictions cannot exist. To believe in them you must abandon the most important thing you possess: your rational mind. The wager for such a bargain is your life. In such an exchange, you always lose what you have at stake." (Chapter 48 Page #489 US Hard Cover) Wizard's Tenth Rule: " Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self." (Chapter 12 Page # US Hard Cover) Wizard's Eleventh Rule: "The rule of all rules. The rule unwritten. The rule unspoken since the dawn of history... But Barracus wanted you to know that it's the secret to using a war wizard's power. The only way to express it, to make sure that you would grasp what he was intending to tell you, was to give you a book unwritten to signify the rule unwritten." (Chapter 65, p. 592, U.S. hardcover edition) |
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