Oud 08-02-2004, 17:59
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hey mensen! ik heb het onderstaand van een vertaalmachine omgezet in, hopelijk, goed Engels! Kan iemand miss. ff voor me kijken of er nog fouten in zitten? Alvast bedankt!

1: De death penalty should be imported again
2: Handicaped people shouldn’t be allowed to get children.

Arguments against position 1:
• If you give someone the death penalty, you’re a murder as well.
• Many criminals don’t think about the consequences of their acts, they commit a murder in a fit of, for instance, pure rage, so it doesn’t work frightening
• Lifelong imprisonment also is very awful, and the murder can have regret of his/ here criminal act.
• It’s wrong to say: we give him / here the death penalty, because he / she can’t repeat the criminal act. You get punishment for something you did, and not for something you can do in the future. Beside that: murderers are the criminals who fall the least of all, in repletion.
• There is always a chance that the to dead condemned is innocent.
• The government is often seen as an example for the society. So they want to show it’s wrong to kille someone by killing that person? Laughable!

Arguments against position 2:
• Somebody's intelligence is not per definition an indicator that children will be raised well. There are a lot of very intelligent, talented people who neglect their children.
• Who are we as people to deside that other people can’t have a child? It’s not ethical to say beforehand that other people are not allowed to have children.
• It doesn’t matter how worse people are handicapped, they can also show real love. And real love is what’s the most important in the education of children. They can get help, when necessary, from specialized authorities
• Why should handicapped people not be allowed to have children, when people with schizophrenia can? It’s almost certainly that, when both parents have this disease each child that they get will have schizophrenia. That’s not the case with handicapped people. is not handicap so with intellectual men.
• Perhaps you can say that children will exceed their parent in intelligently, but that’s not only the case with children who’s parents are handicapped.

• 3: Buy Sunday must become planed down
• 4: The adopting of foreign children must become easier

Arguments for position 3:
• The Sunday is a day that, from the point of the Bible, is NOT meant to be to work on. With buy Sunday, the Sunday will resemble more a more like an ordinary day. And Sunday is NOT an ordinary day. like
• Buy Sundays will lead till extra police care, public transportation, and, finally it will lead to a 24 – hours economy. That’s not a good thing.
• People will be forced to work on Sunday
• There will be less people available for, for example, voluntary work in the care that also continues on Sunday
• People who not want to open their shop on Sunday will be forced to though open it on Sunday, otherwise they will loose customers, and after a while they can close their shop.
• The spending of the consumer doesn’t grow, it’s just that the consuming is divided different.
• People are not dependent from buy Sunday, for so far as it already exists, they have made their self dependent of it!
• For your own sake, it’s very relaxed to have one day off every week. With buy Sunday it will never be a REAllY free day! It would prevent for a lot of burn-outs and stuff.
• Personnel that works on Sunday, must become extra money. That’s unfavourable for the employer.

Arguments for position 4:
• Every idiot in the Netherlands can get children, but people who really want to have a baby, and who are prepared to do such a lot for it, should wait so long and go through so many procedures!
• When people want to have children on the ‘normal’ way they never have to wait for 4 or 5 years. But people who want to adopt children have to! Very strange!
• The parents are double harmed: they already can’t have children, most of the times they went through a lot of trouble, and when the decided that they are willing to adopt a child, they have to wait such a long time
• Two parents who want to adopt children can’t be older than 80 years together. If the adoption period takes a few years, they may get to old to adopt children in the mean time!
• When it becomes easier to adopt children, it’s possible that there are more children adopted, and more children can get out of the anxious situations that they are in most of the times! You can help more parents and more children!
• The problem is in our bureaucracy: everything must accord to the rules and small letters, but it’s not about a law or something of that kind. It’s about people!
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Oud 08-02-2004, 18:28
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[QUOTE]Barbietjuh schreef op 08-02-2004 @ 17:59:
1: De death penalty should ++be imported again reinstated
2: Handicaped people shouldn’t be allowed to get children.

Arguments against position 1:
• If you give someone the death penalty, you’re a ++murder murderer as well.
• Many criminals don’t think about the consequences of their acts, they commit a murder ++in a fit of ?, for instance, pure rage, so it doesn’t work frightening ++{object missing}
• Lifelong imprisonment ++ also is very {constructie} awful, and the ++murder can ++have regret of his/ here criminal act.
• It’s wrong to say: we give him / here the death penalty, because he / she can’t [won't be able to] repeat the criminal act. You get punishment for something you ++did, and not for something you ++can [may]do in the future. Besides that: murderers are the criminals who fall the least of all, in repletion.

repletion
zelfstandig naamwoord
volheid, verzadigdheid
overlading ?

• There is always a chance that the to dead condemned is innocent.
• The government is often seen as an example ++for the society. So they want to show it’s wrong to kille someone by killing that person? Laughable!

Arguments against position 2:
• Somebody's intelligence is not per definition an indicator ++that children will be raised well. There are a lot of very intelligent, talented people who neglect their children. {constructie}
• Who are we as people to ++de(c)ide that other people can’t have a child? It’s not ethical to say ++ on be forehand that other people are not allowed to have children.
• It doesn’t matter ++ how worse people are handicapped, they can also show real love. And real love is what’s the most important in the education of children {constructie}. They can get help, when necessary, from specialized authorities
• Why should handicapped people not be allowed {search for synonymes -> deprived of?} to have children, when people with schizophrenia can? It’s almost certainly that, when both parents have this disease each child that they get will have schizophrenia. That’s not the case with handicapped people. +++is not handicap so with intellectual men.
• Perhaps you can say that children will exceed their parent in intelligently, but that’s not only the case with children who’s parents are handicapped.

• 3: +++Buy Sunday (koopzondag?) must become planed down ??
• 4: {constructie}The adopting of foreign children must become easier

Arguments for position 3:
• The Sunday is a day that, from the point of the Bible, is NOT meant to be to work on {constructie}. With buy Sunday, the Sunday will resemble more a more like an ordinary day. And Sunday is NOT an ordinary day. like ++++
• Buy Sundays will lead till extra police care, public transportation, and, finally it will lead {constructie} to a 24 – hours economy. That’s not a good thing.
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Ik kan niet meer. Let op je constructies, vertaal niet te letterlijk. Dus gebruik voortaan geen vertaalmachine meer.

Ik zal er niet inhoudelijk op in gaan maar denk erom dat je bij het onderstaande geen argument geeft waarom. Veel succes

Buy Sundays will lead till extra police care, public transportation, and, finally it will lead {constructie} to a 24 – hours economy. That’s not a good thing.
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Oud 08-02-2004, 21:14
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heey! heel erg bedankt! het is voor mijn mondeling morgenochtend! moeten we discusseren! dank je wel!
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Oud 09-02-2004, 18:55
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mosterd na de maaltijd maar toch:
2: Handicaped people shouldn’t be allowed to get children.
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in een stelling zou ik geen samentrekkingen gebruiken maar voluit schrijven omdat je je punt duidelijk neer wilt zetten. En het is Handicapped
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