2cb, 2ct7

[Zero-Zero]

wie hebben er ervaring mee?
hoe en waar heb je het genomen en wat vondje ervan?


* er ligt nu een btje 2cb op mijn tafel*

ik denk dat er weinig mensen op dit forum zijn die ervaring hebben met deze designer drugs

lees pihkal en tihkal (of hoe je dat ook schrijft)

[love is life]

wat is dat mssn?

voor op het moment voor mij denk ik iets te vaag.
Een vriend van mij heeft het liggen dus misschien dat ik binnekort eens wat probeer als ik er aan toe ben

Vroeger hadden ze tenminste nog drugs die ik kende ^^.

Nee ik ken het niet, maar ik dacht plots wel aan Swedish Designer Drugs van Daan. Mijn vrienden heb ik er trouwens ook nog nooit over gehoord, ik zal ze eens porren, maar de kenners zijn van dezelfde generatie als ik .

En na bestudering van Erowid klinkt het wel interessant.

[wann]

Uit Pihkal over 2c-b:
(with 16 mg) A day at the Stanford museum. Things were visually rich, yet I felt that I was reasonably inconspicuous. The Rodin sculptures were very personal and not terribly subtle. I saw Escher things in the ceiling design, when I decided to sit in a foyer somewhere and simply pretend to rest. Walking back, the displays seen in the bark of the eucalyptus trees, and the torment and fear (of others? of themselves?) in the faces of those who were walking towards us, were as dramatic as anything I had seen in the art galleries. Our appetites were enormous, and we went to a smorgasbord that evening. A rich experience in every possible way.

(with 20 mg) The drug effect first became known to me as a shift of colors toward golden and rose tones. Pigments in the room became intensified. Shapes became rounder, more organic. A sensation of lightness and rivulets of warmth began seeping through my body. Bright lights began pulsing and flashing behind my closed lids. I began to perceive waves of energy flowing through all of us in unison. I saw all of us as a gridwork of electrical energy beings, nodes on a bright, pulsating network of light. Then the interior landscape shifted into broader scenes. Daliesque vistas were patterned with eyes of Horus, brocades of geometric design began shifting and changing through radiant patterns of light. It was an artist's paradise--representing virtually the full pantheon of the history of art.

(with 20 mg) The room was cool, and for the first hour I felt cold and chilled. That was the only mildly unpleasant part. We had been hanging crystals earlier that day, and the visions I had were dominated by prismatic light patterns. It was almost as if I became the light. I saw kaleidoscopic forms--similar to, but less intense than, when on acid--and organic forms like Georgia O'Keefe flowers, blossoming and undulating. My body was flooded with orgasms-- practically from just breathing. The lovemaking was phenomenal, passionate, ecstatic, lyric, animal, loving, tender, sublime. The music was voluptuous, almost three-dimensional. Sometimes the sound seemed distorted to me, underwater like. This was especially so for the less good recordings--but I could choose to concentrate on the beauty of the music or the inadequacy of the sound's quality, and mostly chose to concentrate on the beauty.

(with 24 mg) I am totally into my body. I am aware of every muscle and nerve in my body. The night is extraordinary--moon full. Unbelievably erotic, quiet and exquisite, almost unbearable. I cannot begin to unravel the imagery that imposes itself during the finding of an orgasm. Trying to understand physical/spiritual merging in nature --.

Uit Pihkal over 2c-t-7:
(with 20 mg) A wonderful day of integration and work. Took about 2 hours for the onset. Some nausea on and off-- that seemed to cycle periodically throughout the day. Visuals were great, much like mescaline but less sparkly. Lots of movement and aliveness--velvety appearance and increased depth perception. Neck and shoulder tension throughout the day along with legs. I would periodically notice extreme tightness of muscles, and then relax. Working was very integrative. Back and forth constantly between wonderful God-space--similar to MDMA but more grounded--then always back to sadness. I felt that it really showed me where I was unfinished, but with self-loving and tolerance. Tremendous processing and letting go. Seeing things very clearly and also able to laugh at my trips. Lots of singing. In spite of shoulder tension, vocal freedom and facility were very high. I felt my voice integrated and dropped in a way it never had before, and that remained for several days. Able to merge body, voice, psyche and emotions with music and then let go of it as a role. I also realized and gave myself permission to do whatever it takes to get free. I let go of Dad with tragic arias. The next day I let go of Mom by singing Kaddish for her, and merging with it.

(with 20 mg) I lay down with music, and become engrossed with being as still as possible. I feel that if I can be totally, completely still, I will hear the inner voice of the universe. As I do this, the music becomes incredibly beautiful. I see the extraordinary importance of simply listening, listening to everything, to people and to nature, with wide open receptivity. Something very, very special happens at the still point, so I keep working on it. When I become totally still, a huge burst of energy is released. And it explodes so that it takes enormous effort to quiet it all down in order to be still again. Great fun.

(with 25 mg) This was a marvelous and strange evening. This 2C-T-7 is good and friendly and wonderful as I remember it. I think it is going to take the place of 2C-T-2 in my heart. It is a truly good material. I got involved with a documentary on television. It was about certain people of Bolivia, people living in the high mountains and about a small village which--perhaps alone among all the places in the country--maintains the old Inca ways, the old traditions, the old language. Which is, I gather, against the law in Bolivia. It showed a yearly meeting of shamans and it was quite clear that hallucinogens played a major part in this meeting. The shaman faces, male and female, were startling in their intensity and earthy depth. The Virgin Mary is worshipped as another version of the ancient Pacha Mama, the Earth Mother. Wonderful dark, vivid look at places and people who are not usually to be seen or even known about.

(with 30 mg) The visuals have an adaptable character to them. I can use them to recreate any hallucinogenic substance I have known and loved. With open eyes, I can go easily into LSD flowing visuals, or into the warm earth world of Peyote, or I can stop them altogether. With closed eyes, there are Escher-like graphics with a lot of chiaroscuro, geometric patterns with oppositional play of sculptured light and dark values. Green light.



Klinkt goed, n'est-ce pas?

[little nemo]

kan je er nog een bad trip van krijgen?

[mind]

Mutant schreef op 26-04-2005 @ 13:19 :
Vroeger hadden ze tenminste nog drugs die ik kende ^^.

2c-b werd in (Nederlandse) smartshops verkocht toen jij 14 was..

[wann]

Ik vind deze ervaring van een gast:

Bad Trip!!!
2C-B
by Father of Secrets


DOSE : 50 mg insufflated 2C-B (powder / crystals)

BODY WEIGHT : 90 kg


I have tried a lot of drugs, always looking for the one drug that could make me feel like a GOD. And one day i found that drug, it was 2C-B. First time i took it was orally in a capsule and after about half an hour i start to feel numb in my fingers and toes.

Then suddenly like an explosion inside of me, it happened i felt so great so there are no words for it....I FELT LIKE GOD !!. I could see the music!!, I was one with the whole earth, nothing was a secret for me anymore.

I really loved this drug, and started to use it constantly. And never had any bad experiences (just coughing and the feeling to almost puke during the upset), this was the best days in my life. Then one day me and my friends decided to snort it up the nose, and then it all went wrong. First i felt a terrible pain like snorting up tabasco, then the time to reach the top only took about five minutes.

But this time something wasn't like before, i have always seen beautiful colours but this time it all went black. I couldn't longer decide what was real or unreal, i lost the connection to the real world. I could see the enemies i had in my life and i felt such a rage that it was frigtening.

Then my fear started to take over, and i had the need to run away....it was like in a war movie i ran in the woods dodging and running...then suddenly i felt my darkest secrets started to be revealed and all my friends stood around me and started to hate me and said they would kill me.

I remembered that i felt how one of them was killing me with a stone, and it felt so good so incredibly good... Remembered that i shouted out 'AT LAST!!!!!...'

Then i woke up and find myself lying in the woods, a bit bruised and frozen my brain started to come back to reality and i understood that it all happened in my brain and not in reality....

After this trip something had changed in my brain, i can't be with people that are depressed or having problems because in some strange way could i feel their pain. And my heart almost feels like someone took it and squeezed it in their hands...dont know why. Hope that it will end some day!!





Maar 50 mg snuiven bij 2c-b?

Bij snuiven zou je ongeveer de helft moeten gebruiken van wat je zou gebruiken bij oraal gebruik. En volgens mij zijn de ervaringen uit Pihkal hierboven bij oraal gebruik.
Als je leest wat die gast dan zegt bij 24 mg, dan moet je niet 50 mg gaan snuiven. Zelfs als de ervaringen uit Pihkal bij snuif-dosis waren, dan zou je nog niet 50 mg moeten gebruiken.


Dus of het een bad trip is is niet duidelijk, overdosis =/= bad trip. Dus...

[Mafheid]

50 mg is fokking veel man! 20 mg (oraal!!) is meer dan genoeg.

Zelf een paar keer 2c-b gehad, maar niet veel genomen toen. Zeker leuke ervaringen. Binnekort weer, en dan een hele capsuel (20 mg)

Maar je kan bij deze middelen ook gewoon bad gaan, dus dezelfde regels gelden als voor andere tripmiddelen.

mind schreef op 26-04-2005 @ 13:41 :
[afbeelding]
2c-b werd in (Nederlandse) smartshops verkocht toen jij 14 was..

Pluh . We zullen wel minder experimenteel geweest zijn ^^

[Zero-Zero]

mind schreef op 26-04-2005 @ 13:41 :
[afbeelding]
2c-b werd in (Nederlandse) smartshops verkocht toen jij 14 was..

[Zero-Zero]

Mafheid schreef op 26-04-2005 @ 14:05 :
50 mg is fokking veel man! 20 mg (oraal!!) is meer dan genoeg.

Zelf een paar keer 2c-b gehad, maar niet veel genomen toen. Zeker leuke ervaringen. Binnekort weer, en dan een hele capsuel (20 mg)

Maar je kan bij deze middelen ook gewoon bad gaan, dus dezelfde regels gelden als voor andere tripmiddelen.

ja kwou net zeggen 50 mg is wel heeeel erg veel..

[Augustus]

Zero-Zero schreef op 26-04-2005 @ 17:37 :
ja kwou net zeggen 50 mg is wel heeeel erg veel..

NEHMEN UND EIN VERSLAG POSTEN!!!! TRIPPEN MACHT FREI!

[Zero-Zero]

wat loop je nou duits te jodelen

[wann]

Omdat Duits een uitermate heerschende taal is. Vooral als je hem:
- incorrect spreekt
- snauwt
- wie weet nog?

[Type]

Bij het maken van een pornofilm gebruikt.

en nu weer over 2-cb.

[Blenderhead]

Type schreef op 26-04-2005 @ 22:21 :
Bij het maken van een pornofilm gebruikt.

en nu weer over 2-cb.

"Geile huren - Erst wenn die Muschi nicht mehr kan wird die Keule in den Arsch gesteckt."

Ach, nog net niet zo erg als porno in het Duits nagesynchroniseerd.

[Tuinkabouter9]

2c-b is idd een trip middel.
Ik heb wel gehoord dat het stabieler is als paddo's
Verder weet ik er ook niet veel vanaf..

owja en alsje uit de trip wilt, eet dan een eetlepel met suiker helpt.

succes

[Zero-Zero]

tsja die dingen wist ik zelf ook wel.
khoopte meer op tripreports
ja en ik weet dat ik ook op erowid kan kijken

[aajp]

EZBlade schreef op 26-04-2005 @ 13:02 :
voor op het moment voor mij denk ik iets te vaag.
Een vriend van mij heeft het liggen dus misschien dat ik binnekort eens wat probeer als ik er aan toe ben

als je hiermee op mij doelt, niksdrvan, mijn 2cb en t is maar 20 mg dus ik ga trippen

zoek jij je eigen maar

dat trok inderdaad op jou, maar niet van jou aap!

[aajp]

o

koop dan meteen maar wat voor mij

en ga eens buitenspelen, tis mooi weer

ik ga zo basketballen slet

[aajp]

ik wil hackysacken maar boris heeft t te druk met steelpannen en burolampen tekenen

[Wammus]

aajp schreef op 01-05-2005 @ 19:10 :
ik wil hackysacken maar boris heeft t te druk met steelpannen en burolampen tekenen

Juist...

aajp schreef op 01-05-2005 @ 19:10 :
ik wil hackysacken maar boris heeft t te druk met steelpannen en burolampen tekenen

dat heb ik toen straks gedaan, zeg boris dat ie dat maar in zijn vrije tijd doet

[Type]

dit gaat helaas nergens meer over... jammer, want ik heb het graag over hallicunogenen...