Overleden militair in Uruzgan

[Joostje]

de VS is voor zo'n 60% afhankelijk van buitenlandse olie, nmaar ik kan nergens vinden waar het vandaan komt :/

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/aer/txt/ptb0504.html

[T_ID]

eddie schreef op 26-04-2007 @ 21:24 :
'Al Qaeda' bestond niet eens voor 11-09-2001

Geloof je het zelf? Die strepen in de lucht, die zijn immers ook niet van vliegtuigen, dat zijn de chemicaliën waarmee de regering aan mindcontrolling doet he?

T_ID schreef op 27-04-2007 @ 16:23 :
Geloof je het zelf? *knip drogredenen*

Ja, dat geloof ik zelf. Zie de documentaire waarna ik heb gelinkt.

[T_ID]

eddie schreef op 27-04-2007 @ 16:28 :
Ja, dat geloof ik zelf. Zie de documentaire waarna ik heb gelinkt.

Ik ga geen documentaire kijken die tien tegen een jouw conclusie niet onderschrijft.

Je gebruikt nu namelijk argumentatie als "ik heb gelijk, geloof je het niet, google dan zelf maar".

Joostje schreef op 27-04-2007 @ 13:46 :
de VS is voor zo'n 60% afhankelijk van buitenlandse olie, nmaar ik kan nergens vinden waar het vandaan komt :/

Canada en Venezuela sowieso. Plaatsen die zware olie produceren zijn uitgesloten, want in de VS zijn er weinig tot geen zware naftakrakers, dus dat kunnen ze niet verwerken.

[Joostje]

nouja, iig de opeclanden geven 40%

Canada en Venezuela (die zit ook in de opec) geven ong 25%

T_ID schreef op 27-04-2007 @ 16:32 :
Ik ga geen documentaire kijken die tien tegen een jouw conclusie niet onderschrijft.

VO = Voice Over

(...)

VO: In January, 2001, a trial began in a Manhattan courtroom of four men accused of the embassy bombings in east Africa. But the Americans had also decided to prosecute bin Laden in his absence. But to do this under American law, the prosecutors needed evidence of a criminal organisation because, as with the Mafia, that would allow them to prosecute the head of the organisation even if he could not be linked directly to the crime. And the evidence for that organisation was provided for them by an ex-associate of bin Laden’s called Jamal al-Fadl.

JASON BURKE , AUTHOR, “AL QAEDA” : During the investigation of the 1998 bombings, there is a walk-in source, Jamal al-Fadl, who is a Sudanese militant who was with bin Laden in the early 90s, who has been passed around a whole series of Middle East secret services, none of whom want much to do with him, and who ends up in America and is taken on by—uh—the American government, effectively, as a key prosecution witness and is given a huge amount of American taxpayers’ money at the same time. And his account is used as raw material to build up a picture of Al Qaeda. The picture that the FBI want to build up is one that will fit the existing laws that they will have to use to prosecute those responsible for the bombing. Now, those laws were drawn up to counteract organised crime: the Mafia, drugs crime, crimes where people being a member of an organisation is extremely important. You have to have an organisation to get a prosecution. And you have al-Fadl and a number of other witness, a number of other sources, who are happy to feed into this. You’ve got material that, looked at in a certain way, can be seen to show this organisation’s existence. You put the two together and you get what is the first bin Laden myth—the first Al Qaeda myth. And because it’s one of the first, it’s extremely influential.

VO: The picture al-Fadl drew for the Americans of bin Laden was of an all-powerful figure at the head of a large terrorist network that had an organised network of control. He also said that bin Laden had given this network a name: “Al Qaeda.” It was a dramatic and powerful picture of bin Laden, but it bore little relationship to the truth.

[ EXCERPT, CNN EXCLUSIVE VIDEO : BIN LADEN AND SOLDIERS ]

VO: The reality was that bin Laden and Ayman Zawahiri had become the focus of a loose association of disillusioned Islamist militants who were attracted by the new strategy. But there was no organisation. These were militants who mostly planned their own operations and looked to bin Laden for funding and assistance. He was not their commander. There is also no evidence that bin Laden used the term “Al Qaeda” to refer to the name of a group until after September the 11th, when he realized that this was the term the Americans have given it.

[ CUT TO MANHATTAN SKYLINE ]

VO: In reality, Jamal al-Fadl was on the run from bin Laden, having stolen money from him. In return for his evidence, the Americans gave him witness protection in America and hundreds of thousands of dollars. Many lawyers at the trial believed that al-Fadl exaggerated and lied to give the Americans the picture of a terrorist organisation that they needed to prosecute bin Laden.

SAM SCHMIDT , DEFENCE LAWYER EMBASSY BOMBINGS TRIAL: And there were selective portions of al-Fadl’s testimony that I believe was false, to help support the picture that he helped the Americans join together. I think he lied in a number of specific testimony about a unified image of what this organisation was. It made Al Qaeda the new Mafia or the new Communists. It made them identifiable as a group and therefore made it easier to prosecute any person associated with Al Qaeda for any acts or statements made by bin Laden—who talked a lot.

BURKE : The idea—which is critical to the FBI’s prosecution—that bin Laden ran a coherent organisation with operatives and cells all around the world of which you could be a member is a myth. There is no Al Qaeda organisation. There is no international network with a leader, with cadres who will unquestioningly obey orders, with tentacles that stretch out to sleeper cells in America, in Africa, in Europe. That idea of a coherent, structured terrorist network with an organised capability simply does not exist.
(...)

Transcript The Power Of Nightmares (deel 3)

[T_ID]

Aha, en jouw logica is dus dat omdat het tot 2000 geen Al Qaida genoemd werd, er nooit een terreurorganisatie heeft bestaan tot die tijd?

Vooral niet de rest lezen