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Oud 18-12-2003, 14:34
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Ik ga eerst naar een vriend van mij,daar eten met z'n 10en ,daarna goed tutteren daar tot half 1 en dan nar mijn stamkroeg!

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jups kzag t en khad geen zin om te gaan zoeken of da er wel of nie was! dus,... tog bedankt !!!

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Oud 18-12-2003, 14:40
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Beetje slottjes vrage op mn iegen post
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Oud 18-12-2003, 14:41
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Nusquam qui ubique est - Seneca
Nergens is hij die overal is

'O Tempora O Mores' - Cicero (Vert: O tijden, O zeden)

"Sic vive, tanquam cras moriturus, sic stude, quasi semper victurus"
Erasmus
(oftewel: Leef alsof je morgen sterft, werk alsof je altijd leeft)

"Virtue et Fortuna"


Concordia res parvae crescunt
Eendracht maakt macht

Niets kost zoveel moed als bekennen dat je bang bent.

Veel woorden putten zich snel uit. Beter is het maat te houden. (c)Lao-Tse

"It's better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you're a fool, than to open it and remove all doubt".

JFK: 'We do these things not because they are easy, but because they are hard.'

The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his."
General George Patton (1885-1945)
Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve...
- George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950)
Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill (1874-1965) - 1942 speech to Parliament.
We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on the beaches. We shall fight on the landing grounds. We shall fight in the fields and in the streets. We shall fight in the hills. We shall never surrender!

Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake. (Napoleon Bonaparte)

Killing one is a national tragedy, killing a milion is statistic. - Josef Stalin.

Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill (1874-1965)
Lady Astor to Churchill: Winston, if you were my husband I would flavour your coffee with poison. Churchill's comeback: Madam, if I were your husband, I should drink it.

The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it.
George Orwell (1903 - 1950)

Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few. All hearts go out to the Fighter pilots, whose brilliant actions we see with our own eyes day after day, but we must never forget that all the time, night after night, month after month, our bomber squadrons travel far into Germany, find their targets in the darknessaim their attacks, often under the heaviest fire, often with serious lossand inflict shattering blows upon the whole of the technical and war-making structure of the Nazi power

Winston Churchill : Yes, madam, I am drunk. But in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly.

"iacta alea est" de teerling zij geworpen
Nog enkele Churchill quotes:
- A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on -
- I like pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals -
- Once in a while you will stumble upon the truth but most of us manage to pick ourselves up and hurry along as if nothing had happened. -
en in meer historische context:
- Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few. -
- The problems of victory are more agreeable than the problems of defeat, but they are no less difficult. -
- The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter -

"One's real life is often the life that one does not lead "

"A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul."
"It is dangerous to be sincere unless you are also stupid." George Bernard Shaw
cogito, ergo sum. Ik denk, dus ik ben.

Ceterum censeo Carthaginem delendam esse.
Dit verkondigde Cato altijd na iedere toespraak (vervolgens ben ik van mening dat Carthago vernietigd dient te worden)
"Our biggest lie is not to hide what is bad and ugly, but our emptiness. Nothing is as difficult to hide as something that is not there." Eric Hoffer.

"Hence, to fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting." - Szun Tsu

"iacta alea est" de teerling zij geworpen
Off course we don't know what we're doing, otherwise we wouldn't call it research would we? --Albert Einstein
Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana. -- Groucho Marx
I find television very educational. Every time someone switches it on I go into another room and read a good book. -- Groucho Marx
The husband who wants a happy marriage should learn to keep his mouth shut and his checkbook open. -- Groucho Marx
Dit is duidelijk een budget. Er staan enorm veel getallen in --George W. Bush
Gekleurde Wodka en opgemaakte meisjes zijn nergens goed voor --Pools gezegde
An elephant is a mouse built to government specifications. --Onbekend
General Anthony McAuliffe: "We have no room for the germans."

"War means fighting, and fighting means killing."
Nathan Bedford Forrest

War is like love , it always finds a way ... "
Berlolt Brecht

" War should be long in preparing ,
in order that you may conquer the more quickly . "
Publilius Syrus
" The military don't start wars . Politicians start wars ... "
General William Westmoreland

"We shall fight on the beaches. We shall fight on the landing grounds. We shall fight in the fields, and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills. We shall never surrender!" Speech about Dunkirk given in House of Commons June 4, 1940.
Winstin Churchhill


"there is no substitute for victory"
D. McArthur
We shall not tire
We shall not falter
And we shall not fail
George W. Bush, President of the United States
Shortly before WW2 Ribbentrop and Eden were supposedly discussing the British chances
Ribbentrop: But you know this time we will have the Italians
Eden: Well its only fair, we had to have them last time

From George Orwell...
"People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

"Its God's responsibility to forgive Bin Laden.
Its our responsibility to arrange the meeting"

"A POW is someone who tries to kill you and fails and then asks you not to kill him "
Churchill

The real problem is WHEN to make a decision, and not What the decision should be. - George C. Marshall

Frederick the Great "He who defends everything defends nothing!"

" Wars may be fought with weapons, but they are won by men. It is the
spirit of the men who follow and of the man who leads that gains the victory."
- General George Smith Patton Jr.

Pacifism is objectively pro-Fascist. This is elementary common sense. If you hamper the war effort of one side you automatically help out that of the other. Nor is there any real way of remaining outside such a war as the present one. In practice, 'he that is not with me is against me'. George Orwell

"I don't know what effect these men will have upon the enemy, but they certainly frighten me!" - Duke of Wellington

Virtutis et audaciae monumentum et premium
( Virtue and audacity are their own monument and reward )
-- another favorite quote used by General George Smith Patton Jr.

"A man-of-war is the best ambassador." -Oliver Cromwell

"A war put off is not a war avoided." - Charlton Heston

"All warfare is based on deception." - Sun Tzu, The Art of War

"In space, all warriors are cold warriors." - Chang

"In war there is no substitute for victory." - Douglas MacArthur

"It is war that shapes peace, and armament that shapes war." -Fuller

"Make deals, not war." - Swindle

"Moderation in war is imbecility." Admiral John Fisher

"Patriotism...is the egg from which wars are hatched." -de Maupassant

"Peace is an extension of war by political means." - Heinlein

"The fear of war is worse than war itself." -Seneca

"There'll always be another war." -- Frank Burns

"There's only one truth about war: people die." - Sheridan

"This means war!" "I thought it meant touchdown?" - Animaniacs

"This was a great war until you guys showed up."-Burns, to Trap & Hawk

"To have good soldiers, a nation must always be at war." -Napoleon

"WAR : We Are Right" - Chief Elder, Pangaea

"War and whiskey don't mix." -- General Steele

"War is a matter of vital importance to the state." -Sun Tzu

"War is an organized bore." -Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr.

"War is nothing but a duel on a larger scale." -Clausewitz

"War is peace." - George Orwell's 1984

"War is the playground of the ignorant." -- Highbrow

"War is the science of destruction." -Abbott

"We have War when at least one of the parties to a conflict wants something more than it wants Peace." -- Jeane J. Kirkpatrick

"War is the usual condition of Europe." -Kropotkin

"War is...a trinity of violence, chance, and reason." -Clausewitz

"War isn't a good life, but it's life." - Kirk

"War would end if the dead could return." - Stanley Baldwin

Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war! --Shakespeare.

In love there are two evils: war and peace. - Horace, 65-8BC

In time of war the laws are silent. - Cicero

Remember the cold war? How pre-millennial!
Remember when a trojan was a warrior?
Stop trying to bring the war in under budget. - BJ to Maj. Burns

The side with the simplest uniforms wins. 'Maj Mark Cancian

War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling, which thinks that nothing is worth war, is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. - John Stuart Mill ~ (1868)

“The blow wherever struck, must, to be successful, be sudden and heavy.”
Robert E. Lee

“Do not forget your dogs of war, your big guns, which are the most-to- be respected arguments of the rights of kings.”
Frederick the Great

“It is always proper to assume that the enemy will do what he should do.”
Robert E. Lee

“In forming the plan of a campaign, it is requisite to foresee everything the enemy may do, and to be prepared with the necessary means to counteract it.”
Napoleon

Weapons are an important factor in war, but not the decisive one; it is the man and not the materials that count.
-Mao Tse-tung

The nation the forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten.
-President Calvin Coolidge

My spelling is Wobbly. It's good spelling but it Wobbles, and the letters
get in the wrong places." A. A. Milne (1882-1958)
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"Man can climb to the highest summits, but he cannot dwell there long."
George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)
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"In Heaven an angel is nobody in particular." George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)
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"Assassination is the extreme form of censorship."
George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)
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"When a stupid man is doing something he is ashamed of, he always declares
that it is his duty." George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)
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"We have no more right to consume happiness without producing it than to
consume wealth without producing it." George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)
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"We want a few mad people now. See where the sane ones have landed us!"
George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)
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"The secret of being miserable is to have leisure to bother about whether
you are happy or not. The cure for it is occupation."
George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)
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"Here's the rule for bargains: "Do other men, for they would do you."
That's the true business precept." Charles Dickens (1812-70)
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"Oh the nerves, the nerves; the mysteries of this machine called man!
Oh the little that unhinges it, poor creatures that we are!"
Charles Dickens (1812-70)
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"A wonderful fact to reflect upon, that every human creature is constituted
to be that profound secret and mystery to every other."
Charles Dickens (1812-70)
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"It was as true as taxes is. And nothing's truer than them."
Charles Dickens (1812-70)

" Wij zijn niet tot u gekomen om u te bestraffen, maar om u op te beuren en te redden. Wij zullen u leeren deugdzame menschen en goede onderdanen te zijn"

De ontroerende laatste woorden van J.H.A. Jacometti op de Grebbeberg: we zullen ze er wel even uitgooien en er met de blanke klewang op ingaan

Jacobus van Speijk: Dan liever de lucht in...

"The test of the morality of a society is what it does for its children." - Dietrich Bonhoeffer.
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Zoveel moeite is het toch niet om dat te vinden.....

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Oud 18-12-2003, 14:44
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Oud 18-12-2003, 14:58
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Waarom denk je dat er een wisselforum is gemaakt met de naam "Kerst & Oud en Nieuw"?
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