Salvia

[Luki]

Kun je dit gewoon bij de tunierwinkel halen? Lijkt me wel interessant 5 minuten lang hevig trippen.

Salvia is te verkrijgen in zo'n beetje iedere smartshop en die 5-30 minuten is niets wat je moet onderschatten.

[Luki]

Ik moet drugs ook niet onderschatten, mee eens. Maar mij kennende zie je me binnekort toch doodleuk die blaadjes in me mond proppen. Wat is het effect zo'n beetje, heb je hier ervaring mee?

Uit eigen ervaring heb ik vernomen dat het effect heel erg kan verschillen, van niets/weinig (wat vooral de eerste paar keer zo was) tot complete out-of-body ervaringen waarbij het contact met de werkelijkheid volledig verloren was.

Level -1 S stands for SUBTLE effects." A feeling that "something" is happening, although it is difficulty to say just what. Relaxation and increased sensual appreciation may be noted. This mild level is useful for meditation and may facilitate sexual pleasure.

Level - 2 A stands for ALTERED perception." Colors and textures are paid attention to. Appreciation of music may be enhanced. Space may appear of greater or lesser depth than is usual. But visions do not occur at this level. Thinking becomes less logical, and more playful; short term memory difficulties are may be noted.

Level - 3 L stands for LIGHT visionary state." Closed eye visuals (clear imagery with eyes closed: fractal patterns, vinelike and geometric patterns, visions of objects and designs). The imagery is often two dimensional. If open eyed visual effects occur these are usually vague and fleeting. At this level phenomena similar to the hypnagogic phenomena that some people experience at sleep onset occur. At this level visions are experienced as "eye candy" but are not confused with reality.

Level - 4 V stands for VIVID visionary state." Complex three dimensional realistic appearing scenes occur. Sometimes voices may be heard. With eyes open contact with consensual reality will not be entirely lost, but when you close your eyes you may forget about consensus reality and enter completely into a dreamlike scene. Shamanistic journeying to other lands, foreign or imaginary; encounters with beings, entities, spirits; or travels to other ages may occur. You may even live the life of another person. At this level you have entered the shaman's world. Or if you prefer you are in "dream time." With eyes closed you experience fantasies (dream like happenings, with a story line to them). So long as your eyes are closed you may believe they are really occurring. This differs from the "eye candy" closed eye imagery, of level 3.

Level - 5 I stands for IMMATERIAL existence." At this level consciousness remains and some thought processes are still lucid, but one becomes completely involved in inner experience and loses all contact with consensual reality. Individuality may be lost; one experiences merging with God/dess, mind, universal consciousness, or bizarre fusions with other objects real or imagined, e.g. merging with a wall may be experienced. At this level it is impossible to function in consensual reality, but unfortunately some people do not remain still but move around in this befuddled state. For this reason a sitter is essential to ensure the safety of someone voyaging to the inner levels. To the person experiencing this, the phenomenon may be terrifying or exceedingly pleasant; but to an outside observer the individual may appear confused or disoriented.

Level 6 - A stands for AMNESIC effects " At this stage either consciousness is lost; or at least one is unable to later recall what one is experiencing. The individual may fall, or remain immobile or thrash around; somnambulistic behavior may occur; injuries can be sustained without pain being felt; on awakening the individual will have no recollection of what he/she did, experienced or said in level 6. People cannot ever recall what they experience in this very deep trance state. This is not a sought after level as later nothing can be recalled of the experience.

Trouwens: Zelf heb ik het nooit gedaan, maar als je van plan bent op blaadjes te kouwen in plaats van een salvia extract te roken lijkt het me niet dat je verder dan "level 1" (zie citaat) kan komen. De werking van
salvia schijnt erg veel te maken met manier van inname, zo erg dat bij extract roken zelfs de verbrandingstemperatuur een grote rol speelt. Hoe het het best zou moeten is iets waar ik zelf ook niet helemaal over uit ben. Langzaam opbouwen en experimenteren is in ieder geval wel zo verstandig.

ik heb t nu twee keer gedaan, eerste keer 5X extract (ja we vonden het eng) en dat was echt amper tot niets, en de laatste keer 20x extract, en dat was amper tot weinig, maar ik was ook al fucking dronken

[Droyd]

Op YouTube kun je een hoop filmpjes vinden van mensen die trippen op salvia. Vast handig om weten als je het van plan bent...