[ENGELS]Spreekbeurt vertalingen

[roelieboelie]

Hallo,

ik moet een spreekbeurtje houden over de film East is East. ik heb al wat geschreven en in het engels vertaald, maar ik ben nooit zo'n kei in woorden enzo opzoeken. iemand ie me kan helpen?

NL tekst:
De leefwereld van de vrouw is dus beperkt tot het huis. Een vrouw die weigert zich aan deze beperkingen te houden wordt gezien als een bedreiging van de gemeenschap en mag dus door haar man geslagen worden. En dat gebeurde ook in de film.
De man is verplicht om gedurende 2 jaar voor een vrouw te zorgen wanneer deze zwanger is van hem. Bij overspel moet de man 4 getuigen aan voeren en als hij het overspel kan bewijzen moet de vrouw gruwelijke lijfstraffen ondergaan.
De man kan beslissen tot scheiding wanneer hij wil, vrouw kan niets doen,ze kent haar rechten niet.

vertaling

The environment of the woman has been therefore restricted to the house.
A woman who refuses herself keep to these restrictions is considered as a threat of the community and can therefore by its man be beaten. And that happened in the film.

The man has been obliged during 2 years for a woman ensure when these are pregnant of him.
At adultery the man must 4 conduct witnesses to and if he can prove adultery the woman atrocious must lijfstraffen undergo.
The man can decide to separation when he wants, woman can do nothing, she does not know its rights.


Voor de rest heb ik ook nog een stuk tekst meteen in het engels geschreven
The position of the women in the family

In the movie from East to East had we seen that in the family the position of the women was very low. She lived in her own counrty but her culture was not important for the man. The culture of the man was the important. As he is a moslim, the woman must be a moslim too. She must use that culture. As the man is a Pakistan she must be it too. In that case she was a kind of marionette and man controls her. The woman had listen to the man. She takes the beat so you could see in the movie. And when the man was unlucky he said he had to go to his first women in Pakistan. It was normal that a man have more than 1 woman The woman had nothing to tell. All she will do she must have permission of her man. IN the history were there horrible life-attacks on the woman when she had no respect for her husband

Iemand die hier eens naar wil kijken?

P.S als je nog ideen hebt over de positie van de vrouw in een pakistaan gezin in engeland, laat maar horen

[Konijn]

vertaling

The environment of the woman has therefore been restricted to the house. (Is dit maar een deel van een verhaal ofzo iets? Anders beetje rare eerste zin met 'dus').
A woman who refuses to keep herself to these restrictions is considered a threat for the community and can therefore be beaten bij her husband (je zegt geen 'it' over een vrouw!). And that was what happened in the film.

The man is obliged to take care of a woman for two years, when she is pregnant with him.
Die zin daarna klopt echt helemaal niets van, ga ik ook niet aan beginnen.
The man can decide to separate whenever he wants, women can do nothing, they don't know their rights.

[Konijn]

The position of the women in the family

In the movie from East to East we have seen that in the family the position of the women was very low. She lived in her own country but her culture was not important for the man. The culture of the man was the important one. As he is a moslim, the woman must be a moslim too. She must use that culture. As the man is a Pakistan she must be that too. In that case she was a kind of marionette and the man controls her. The woman had to listen to the man. She takes the beat so you could see in the movie Wat bedoel je hier mee? Klopt iig niet. And when the man was unlucky he said he had to go to his first women in Pakistan. It was normal that a man had more than 1 woman The woman had nothing to tell. For everything she wants to do, shemust have permission of her man. IN the history there were horrible life-attacks on the woman when she had no respect for her husband

[Konijn]

Is nog lang niet perfect verbetert hoor, maar als dit jouw eigen engels is, zijn de ergste fouten er in ieder geval uit, en lijkt het niet zo raar als dat je ineens geweldig engels kunt.

Die tweede tekst kun je trouwens misschien beter in tegenwoordige tijd schrijven, want het lijkt allemaal een beetje raar zo.

[Liesjeuh]

1ste tekst:
whenever he wants to

the man must conduct 4 witnesses and if he can prove...
the woman must bear (ondergaan, weetnie juist wat dat is in het engels) atrocious corporal punishment .

2de:
...that in the family the position of the women was very low. She lived ...
--> het ggaat hier kennelijk over 1 vrouw, dan moet het dus woman zijn

a moslim --> is het niet a muslim?

a Pakistan --> from Pakistan

his first woman in Pakistan

permission from her man

[roelieboelie]

heej, bedankt mensen! We zijn al weer een stuk verder

Ik heb nog een stukje, iemand die er even naar kan kijken als het een beetje klopt?

If you type ''woman in England from Pakistan'' in a search engine such as Google, you get a page where the Koran are. And if you go the paragraph 4.34, it illustrates the status and the nature of woman, as is determined by Allah:

**BLABLABLA**




The women has nothing to tell about her own children. As the dad will that his children get married. They had to do that then. The women could have there won opinion.

Our conclusion about this is that the man is the so-called big boss in the family

[Liesjeuh]

you get a page where the Koran are --> wat bedoel je daarmee?

the status and the nature of women (women met een e is meervoud, woman met een a is enkelvoud!!)


The woman has nothing to say (to tell is vertellen, niks te zeggen hebben is met 'say')

If the father wants his children to get married, they have to do it.

The women could have their own opinion. --> bedoel je trouwens niet 'should'?

[roelieboelie]

Liesjeuh schreef op 29-09-2004 @ 17:30 :
you get a page where the Koran are --> wat bedoel je daarmee?


The women could have their own opinion. --> bedoel je trouwens niet 'should'?

ik wilde eigenlijk zeggen, dat je dan een pagina krijgt waar de Koran opstaat. Weet je hoe je dat het beste kan zeggen?

En moet idd should zijn


maar alvast super bedankt!

[Liesjeuh]

a page with a part of the Koran on (want volgens mij kan de koran niet op 1 blad! trouwens: als het een bladzijde uit dde koran is dat je bedoelt: a page from the Koran)

[roelieboelie]

ok, thnxx :-)

nou ja...ik val jullie nog ene keer lastig

---The women has nothing to tell about her own children. If the father wants his children to get married, they have to do it. The women shouldn’t have their own opinion. ---

>>A good example too is if the father says in the film that her daughter must put other clothes on then there own school uniform. The mother can’t go in discuss with his husband.

in het NL

--...--

>>een ander goed voorbeeld is het als de vader zegt dat zijn dochter andere kleren aan moet trekken dan haar schooluniform. De moeder kan niks inbrengen tegen haar man.

[Liesjeuh]

another good example in the film is when the father says that his daughter has to put other clothes on than her school uniform

the mother can't discuss it with her husband

[Konijn]

roelieboelie schreef op 29-09-2004 @ 18:22 :

---The women has nothing to tell about her own children. If the father wants his children to get married, they have to do it. The women shouldn’t have their own opinion. ---

Zo klopt je gebruik van shouldn't dus niet.
Je bedoelt dat ze hun eigen mening zouden moeten hebben: dan is het they should have their own opinion.
Als je bedoelt dat ze geen eigen mening mogen hebben: dan is het they don't have, of they aren't allowed to

Wat jij nu zegt is, dat ze geen eigen mening zouden moeten hebben (en dat dat jouw mening is, zeg maar).

[roelieboelie]

okee, nou ja, volgens mij zijn de grootste fouten er nu wel uit gehaald en is het een beetje begrijpbaar

The position of the women in the family

In the movie from East is East we have seen that in the family the position of the women was very low. She lived in her own country but her culture was not important for the man. The culture of the man was the important one. As he is a Muslim, the woman must be a Muslim too. She must use that culture. As the man is a Pakistan she must be that too. In that case she was a kind of marionette and the man controls her. The woman had to listen to the man.
And when the man was unlucky he said he had to go to his first women in Pakistan. It was normal that a man had more than one woman. The woman had nothing to tell. For everything she wants to do, she must have permission of her man. In the history there were horrible life-attacks on the woman when she had no respect for her husband

The environment of the woman has therefore been restricted to the house. A woman who refuses to keep herself to these restrictions is considered a threat for the community and can therefore be beaten by her husband. And that was what happened in the film.
The man is obliged to take care of a woman for two years, when she is pregnant with him.
The man can decide to separate whenever he wants, women can do nothing, they don't know their rights.
If you type ''woman in England from Pakistan'' in a search engine such as Google, you get a page with a part of the Koran on. And if you go the paragraph 4.34, it illustrates the status and the nature of women, as is determined by Allah:

“Men have authority over women because Allah has made the one superior to the others and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because Allah has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them. Then if they obey you take no further action against them. Allah is high, supreme.”

The women has nothing to tell about her own children. If the father wants his children to get married, they have to do it. The woman should have their own opinion.

Another good example in the film is when the father says that his daughter has to put other clothes on than her school uniform. the mother can't discuss it with her husband

Our conclusion about this is that the man is the so-called big boss in the family

[Liesjeuh]

[The position of the woman in the family

In the movie from East is East we have seen that in the family the position of the woman was very low.

She must take over that culture.

In that case --> wat doet dat hier nou?
she is (geen verleden tijd nodig!) a kind of marionette and the man controls her. The woman has to listen to the man.

unlucky --> als je ongelukkig bedoelt, dan is het 'unhappy'

It 's normal that a man has more than one woman. The woman has nothing to tell. --> stop toch met die verleden tijd! het is nu toch nog op vveel plaatsen zo? dus gebruik je gewoon een simple present.

For everything she wants to do, she must have permission from her man. In history there were horrible life-attacks on women that had had no respect for their husband

A woman who refuses to keep herself to these restrictions is considered as a threat for the community and can therefore be beaten by her husband.

women can't do anything, they don't know their rights.

And if you go to paragraph 4.34, it illustrates the status and the nature of women, as is determined by Allah:

Women have nothing to say about their own children. If the father wants his children to get married, they haveto . Women aren't allowed to have their own opinion.

to put on other clothes than her school uniform.